Hi Mario,

thank you for elucidating!

On Wednesday, May 28, 2014 11:00:10 PM UTC+2, PMario wrote:

> I did several experiments with a "vanilla" tiddlyweb installation ... 
> combining it with TWclassic [2]. 
> I also tried to create a "1 click" setup with the help of vagrant and 
> VirtualBox, to make experiments easier. .. But this configuration doesn't 
> work well with TW5 out of the box.
>

Okay, I'm staying away from TWC as I would have to spend some time on 
learning how to use it. Also it seems pointless to put time and effort into 
it as I have no existing project that needs a conversion to TW5, although 
I'm sure that TWC still has it's advantages. The way I see it I'll have to 
start experimenting with a vanilla TiddlyWeb installation and the 
incomplete TW5 storage module and then I'll hopefully see what needs to be 
done.
 

> IMO TW5 needs a different approach, which is pretty straight forward.
> nginx + wsgi + tiddlyweb, where nginx serves a "lazy" TW5.html file ... As 
> above the TW5 adapter isn't finished yet.  
>

 Is there a strict dependency on nginx or is it just the default web server 
used with TiddlyWeb. Is running Apache+mod_wsgi not recommended?


>> TiddlyWeb has some server side plugins, that could do indexing, that can 
>>> be accessed with a query string in the URL.  
>>>
>>
>> That's great! Does this work already with TW5?
>>
>
> That's independent from TW5. I was thinking about the server side whooser 
> plugin [4]. TW5 has no UI to use this function. 
> Indexing also depends on your tiddler store. So if you use the file store, 
> or a sql database. Which increases the number of moving parts ....
>

I know that there is no UI. What I'm still trying to figure out is how 
low-level the integration of a server-side store can be implemented, i.e. 
whether it's possible to directly pass queries on to the store so that for 
instance when a user requests the "References" or "Tagging" fields of a 
tiddler a backend query is issued requesting information about connections 
of this tiddler.

Is this a categorical thing, i.e. does the core of TW or TiddlyWeb need 
>> major adjustments to the core? 
>>
> Or is it only the glue that's missing, i.e. api calls and filling various 
>> hooks and callbacks?
>>
> You need to do the server side configuration right.  
>

Have you tried it? 

If your TW is too big, you can split it into several TWs, so every file has 
> less tiddlers. IMO splitting a TW is much less work than dealing with the 
> server side. 
> But if you want multi user TWs imo you'll need a server side. 
>

For the time being my TWs are not to big, but they grow fast. I don't like 
splitting it into different wikis, because I don't like the idea of a 
single file containing all data and also there is no satisfactory way to 
link between wikis. 

Stefan, you have an gmx.at acount. So where are you from?
>

>From the city built around the river mur :) You?

Stefan

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