Hi,

Forgot the link to my guide [1]

Cheers,

Ton

[1] http://tw5readonly.tiddlyspot.com/

On Wednesday, October 8, 2014 12:40:43 PM UTC+2, Ton Gerner wrote:
>
> Hi David,
>
> Not a solution for all your problems, but may you can get some ideas from 
> my "How to make TW5 readonly" guide [1]
>
> Cheers,
>
> Ton
>
>
> On Sunday, October 5, 2014 9:41:09 AM UTC+2, David Jade wrote:
>>
>> I'm working on putting together a custom edition of TW5, ones that 
>> contains a few custom tiddlers, plugins, etc... This is a very customized 
>> sort of edition, one that is only meant to be hosted inside a new host 
>> container (meaning, not a general purpose web browser). To be more 
>> specific, I'm working on hosting Wikis inside of MS Visual Studio via a VS 
>> custom extension so that they can be used as project documentation. This 
>> custom container would have UI chrome to handle things like file saving, 
>> printing, copy/paste, etc...
>>
>> One thing I would like to be able to do is, suppress certain Core UI, 
>> tiddlers and bits of Core code based on some run time state, perhaps wiki 
>> via a plugin wikimethod. When I say "suppress" I general mean to 
>> hide/disable them but not necessary remove them from this custom edition. 
>> My thought is, when these wikis are hosted within a non-web browser host 
>> (i.e. VS) they should have different UI functionality but that 
>> functionality should be preserved in the wiki in case they are later loaded 
>> into a regular stand-alone web browser (i.e. allows wiki files to be loaded 
>> in custom VS host and in a web browser as needed).
>>
>> Here's some of the things that I would like to be able to programatically 
>> suppress. 
>>
>>    - The Save button - I would like to hide it from the UI as well as 
>>    the ability to show/hide it from the Tools menu. All of the built in save 
>>    UI should be completely hidden when the wiki is hosted in the custom 
>> host.*
>>    - Several section of the control panel like the Save option tab and 
>>    most of the Settings tab should never been shown since there will not be 
>> a 
>>    standard saver module in play, an address bar, etc... in my custom host.
>>    - Hide parts of the Toolbar options so that buttons that don't make 
>>    sense can't be made to show up - it shouldn't even be an option to change 
>>    their state - it should be like they don't even exist.
>>    
>> My idea is that my plugin would have a wikimethod that the host container 
>> calls into to notify the wiki to suppress these items. That way the host 
>> can notify the wiki that it is being hosted in something other than a 
>> stand-alone web browser and the wiki can adjust it's UI accordingly at run 
>> time. 
>>
>> The goal here is to find a way to hide certain bits of UI dynamically 
>> only when the wiki is loaded into a non-standard web browser host. I'm just 
>> not sure what the best approach would be though to dynamically suppress 
>> these Core items at run time. I can easily call into a wikimethod from the 
>> external host to trigger this behavior - I'm just not sure what the best 
>> way to dynamically hide certain parts of the UI at run time is. 
>>
>> Does anyone have any ideas? One thing to keep in mind is, when 
>> suppressing these bits of UI I don't want the suppression state written 
>> into the wiki's state when the wiki is saved - this might prevent that UI 
>> from showing if the wiki file were to be then loaded into a regular web 
>> browser later on. The idea is to just suppress UI at run time given some 
>> external signal via my host & plugin.
>>
>> I hope this makes sense.
>>
>> thanks,
>> David
>>
>> * In case you're wondering, wiki saving is still possible in my custom 
>> edition but it happens via the host handling the save - I have plugin 
>> methods that facilitate sending the data to be saved back to the host so 
>> that it handles all save UI and file operations on behalf of the wiki.
>>
>

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