Hi James
> I got the actionwidget thing working, very nice.
>
Great..
> Nowi just need a hook into story.js. Any ideas or plans on how you are
> going to do this? I have some free time coming up and might be able to give
> it a go,
>
I'm thinking of introducing a new general purpose "hooking" mechanism.
You'd register a hook for altering the default tiddlers something like this:
$tw.hooks.addHook("th-opening-default-tiddlers-list",function(list) {
list.push("Another tiddler");
return list;
});
I've created a ticket here:
https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/1064
Best wishes
Jeremy
>
> thanks
>
> ,
> James
>
>
> On Tuesday, 4 November 2014 06:38:22 UTC+9, James Anderson wrote:
>>
>> http://welford.github.io/#%24%3A%2Fcore%2Fmodules%2Fstartup%2Fstory.js
>>
>> The same issue appears on my older webpage too. Will investigate this
>> later.
>>
>> On Tuesday, 4 November 2014 06:26:29 UTC+9, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi James
>>>
>>> No, the code highlighting is completely wrong in the JS tiddler I linked
>>> to. Very strange.
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>>
>>> Jeremy.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 9:22 PM, James Anderson <james.w....@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> You mean the spacing that is added throughout the code block? I have no
>>>> idea, that is the first time I have noticed it,
>>>>
>>>> I'll take a look at action-sendmessage when i have some time.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> James
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, 4 November 2014 06:13:43 UTC+9, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi James
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I understand that the plugin in it's current form is not suited for
>>>>>> upgrades at all. For this to work as an reliable plugin I need a way to
>>>>>> append to the default tiddlers in story.js on startup or when the home
>>>>>> button is pressed (which i currently don't do). I think $:/DefaultTidders
>>>>>> list field is well suited to this (unless there is some unknown use for
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> that I am unaware of). I also need a way to add custom messages to
>>>>>> buttons,
>>>>>> though this is not as important as it could be also be it's own custom
>>>>>> button and work just as well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ideally however, I think this functionality would be good to have in
>>>>>> the core and I don't mind cleaning this up and making a pull request for
>>>>>> it. Opinion here seems divided (biased though I am, I'd say that the
>>>>>> average person here was more inclined to know programming and don't see
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> barrier for those not in the know :) ) I think that 2nd version is very
>>>>>> unobtrusive and easily ignored for those that do not like the idea)
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm not in favour of adding it to the core at this point. I'd prefer
>>>>> to get more usage and feedback from the community as a plugin. Part of the
>>>>> reason is that I can imagine a few different ways of handling a tiddler
>>>>> "pin" button - for example, to be able to pin tiddlers to a different
>>>>> story
>>>>> tiddler so that they show up in a separate column for reference. Or
>>>>> pinning
>>>>> tiddlers to a new title list in the sidebar. This is quite a high level
>>>>> behaviour change and so I think it's is best handled through a plugin to
>>>>> encourage experimentation (once it's in the core it would be frozen).
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyhow, I think we'd only need one core change which is to update
>>>>> story.js so that external modules get a chance to change the default
>>>>> tiddlers before they are used.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think you can avoid customising the button widget by using the new
>>>>> action-sendmessage widget to send a message with parameters.
>>>>>
>>>>> By the way, the highlight plugin seems to be misbehaving for me on
>>>>> your site. For example:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://welford.github.io/pinned2.html#%24%3A%2Fcore%2Fmodule
>>>>> s%2Fstartup%2Fstory.js
>>>>>
>>>>> I couldn't see anything obvious that might cause the problem, have you
>>>>> any idea?
>>>>>
>>>>> Best wishes
>>>>>
>>>>> Jeremy.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks again,
>>>>>> James
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tuesday, 4 November 2014 02:01:31 UTC+9, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi James
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I just noticed that your example at http://welford.github.io/pi
>>>>>>> nned2.html ships with updated versions of two of the core shadow
>>>>>>> tiddler JS modules "story.js" and "button.js". That's not a good
>>>>>>> strategy
>>>>>>> for a production plugin as it will not withstand a core upgrade.
>>>>>>> Ideally,
>>>>>>> we'd work together to get the hooks you need in story.js and button.js.
>>>>>>> Failing that, I think it would be helpful for end users to give a very
>>>>>>> clear warning that the plugin will not work through future core
>>>>>>> upgrades.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best wishes
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jeremy
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 4:57 PM, Jeremy Ruston <jeremy...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi James
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That should read i had a bit of trouble with the filters. They work
>>>>>>>>> as they are now, i am just not too sure on the need to [all] in one
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> [is] in the other.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "is" acts as a filter, filtering the currently selected tiddlers
>>>>>>>> according to its operands. "all" acts as a generator, ignoring the
>>>>>>>> currently selected tiddlers, and just generating tiddler titles
>>>>>>>> according
>>>>>>>> to its operands.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best wishes
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jeremy
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Monday, 3 November 2014 04:22:54 UTC+9, James Anderson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://welford.github.io/pinned2.html
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> A new version which does what I previously mentioned: Using the
>>>>>>>>>> list field of $:/DefaultTiddlers as not to created any unwanted
>>>>>>>>>> duplicate
>>>>>>>>>> data or update the modified field of any tiddler you wish to pin.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> For this plugin the button widget has 2 new parameters for the
>>>>>>>>>> tm-add-field message (both in place of setTo) "appendFront" and
>>>>>>>>>> "remove"
>>>>>>>>>> which append data to the front of a field and removes and entry from
>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>> field respectively.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> story.js has been modified to look at the list field of
>>>>>>>>>> $:/DefaultTiddlers and append and tiddlers appearing in the field
>>>>>>>>>> but not
>>>>>>>>>> in the parsed body.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I have a bit of trouble getting the filters to do what i wanted
>>>>>>>>>> without using tags.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> <$list filter="[all[current]]-[list[$:/DefaultTiddlers]]">
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This is what i ended up with for catching tiddlers that were not
>>>>>>>>>> already pinned, it doesn't work for system tiddlers (like control
>>>>>>>>>> panel)
>>>>>>>>>> when using is[current] instead of all[current], if anyone could tell
>>>>>>>>>> me why
>>>>>>>>>> i'd love to know
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> <$list filter="[list[$:/DefaultTiddlers]is[current]]">
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> And this catched tiddlers that are already pinned, but again (if
>>>>>>>>>> inversely) all[current] did not work correctly for system tiddlers
>>>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>>>> control panel. Any help on clearing up why would be appreciated.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>> James
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, 27 October 2014 05:00:37 UTC+9, James Anderson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, I had mobile in mind for some TW5 apps that I am making.
>>>>>>>>>>> the sidebar hides below a certain screen width.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I have an updated version that hides the page name too, so there
>>>>>>>>>>> is more space for the toolbar and search on phones.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, 27 October 2014 04:11:59 UTC+9, Danielo RodrÃguez
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello James
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Personally I don't see the need of pin tiddlers, using default
>>>>>>>>>>>> tiddlers plus tags is good enough for me. Anyway, having the
>>>>>>>>>>>> ability to
>>>>>>>>>>>> customize TW to everyone's liking is one of its strongest features.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> BTW I only wanted to say that I love how your TW is displayed
>>>>>>>>>>>> on my mobile phone. The top bar is very handy and non intrusive.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe I
>>>>>>>>>>>> miss a couple of buttons. Is the sidebar hidden always or just on
>>>>>>>>>>>> mobile?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
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