Mario,

I have come to understand this, but my question is can we initiate actions 
on opening, or clicking the link to a Tiddler, that is specific to that 
tiddler? 
Imagine 

   - I append a date and Time to a subtiddler on opening the tiddler, and 
   again on closing?
   - Evaluate and Set a range of variables and field values which are then 
   available to the tiddler including actions.

Perhaps I am saying what about an on-click event for opening and closing a 
tiddler? Surely this does not break the model? and happens on user 
interaction?

Regards
Tony

On Friday, March 30, 2018 at 7:33:32 PM UTC+11, PMario wrote:
>
> On Friday, March 30, 2018 at 3:56:51 AM UTC+2, TonyM wrote:
>>
>> Folks,
>> This question may be from a place of ignorance, however can you tell me 
>> why it appears fields can only be set from inside a triggering process such 
>> as a button?
>>
>
> That's right. TiddlyWiki is event-driven, because the browser is event 
> driven. ... 
>
> Eg: 
>  - clicking any element on the browser viewport will create a 
> "click-event" ... 
>  - This event starts at the element that is clicked. ... 
>  - If the element doesn't handle it, it "bubbles up" to the parent ... and 
> so on. 
>  - If there is some code, that handles the event, something happens. ...
>
> A very common pattern for user interaction is clicking buttons. ... 
> Handling button clicks is "cheap" since it only needs to happen on user 
> interaction. Since users are "slow" compared to modern CPUs, "button based" 
> interaction doesn't slow down the site performance. .... 
>
> A second common pattern is scrolling. ... Handling the "scroll-event" to 
> see if something is visible is "expensive" eg: With my mouse wheel changing 
> it 1 raster, creates about 40 scroll events. That's a page movement of 4 
> lines. ... So handling very little things is ok. .. But going through the 
> whole tiddler store and do something, will slow down the UI interaction. 
>
> .... That's why there is no user facing generic widgets, that uses the 
> scroll event. .. They are always very specialized, to do exactly one thing 
> fast! 
>
> eg: 
> TiddlyMap has a "hotzone" widget. 
> TW plugin "dynaview" handles "load, scroll, resize" events 
>
> Since working with those events can have a bad performance impact modern 
> browsers created "native" observer functions 
> <https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Intersection_Observer_API>. 
> .. Most modern browser can use this mechanism. ... but as usual IE does 
> not. ... So doing it the "compatible way" .. is not really suited for most 
> users. 
>
> have fun!
> mario
>
>
>
>

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