On Wednesday, January 1, 2020 at 3:43:40 AM UTC+1, TonyM wrote:
...

> I do not fully follow your stories work but it sounds like progress. As I 
> understand stories are really custom populated list fields.
>

The "initial" story-configuration for users will be list-LIKE-fields. ... 
The (solved) problem here is a nice draggable "list view" instead of a 1 
line text field.

The "complex" type should be a mix of tiddler titles with filters. ... The 
problem here is drag&drop-filter sorting at the moment. (causes the delay 
at the moment)
 

> Can this go a little more generic if we address the utilisation of list 
> fields if not also by another name,
>

As above I want to use list-like fields. They should work with a generic 
UI. My first test is a dynamic "table-view". I'm not really happy with it 
atm. But at least it does something.
 

> and given such a list could also be "any filter"
>

Absolutely right. The content of the list-field is a valid filter "subset". 
eg: a b c works as list and as filter

So a *filter-like field* could contain something like this: 

 -[enlist{!!list}] or 
 -[enlist{!!otherField}sortby{!!test}]] [[a a]]
 -[enlist{xx!!otherField}sortby{xx!!test}]] [[a a]insertbefore[b]] 

For the 3rd example let's assume otherField is: a b c  and  test is: c b a  

If you copy this to advanced-search filter tab at tiddlywiki.com you can 
see crazy stuff going on. It's extremely flexible and powerful. 

With constructions like example 3 it will be possible, that users can 
modify the filtered sort order, without modifying the initial filter or 
list. So it's possible to update the underlying configuration by an author, 
without destroying user settings and vice versa.

With an "evaluate filter and copy to xxx-field" it should be possible to 
"snapshot" the output of the filter to a draggable list. ... UI needs to be 
improved here.
 

> I see an extension of list handling into both stories, packages, bundles 
> and draggable pills would be a good underlying set of features to many 
> solutions.
>

Yea, it seems to be possible, to replace some usecases of the bundler 
plugin with the story workflow. This will allow me to add new stuff to the 
bundler, which I didn't want to add at the moment, because it would create 
confusion. 

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All of the above may seem super complicated, but it turns out, the user 
workflow is incredibly simple. 

have fun!
mario

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