Saq,
I did it once again, and it *did not reoccur*, however I have realised I
often use a bookmarklet as my first step in any "new" or online wiki.
Although my suggestion to make a filter such as below and allowing other
plugins to register exclusions.
[haschanged[]] -[prefix[$:/temp]] -[prefix[$:/state]] -$:/StoryList -$:/
HistoryList -[prefix[$:/Bob]] -[prefix[$:/ServerIP]] -[prefix[$:/
WikiSettings]]
The bookmarklet was defined with the following filter, ie items changes at
the time it was made, the listed tiddler should not be in it, but they seem
to appear after the install.
[all[]modifier{$:/status/UserName}!prefix[$:/temp]!prefix[$:/state]] -[[$:/
HistoryList]] -[[$:/StoryList]] -[[$:/PSaT/bookmarkletMaker/AdvancedSearch]]
And while this list does not change the haschanged tiddlers I think it may
be changing one of the subtiddlers.
I will need to follow this lead further.
Thanks
Tony
On Friday, June 5, 2020 at 2:20:23 PM UTC+10, Saq Imtiaz wrote:
>
> @Tony what browser and OS are you using?
>
> Running the filter [haschanged[]] at https://tiddlywiki.com/empty.html in
> Linux and the latest Chrome gives me the following:
>
> $:/StoryList
> $:/HistoryList
> $:/state/tab--1498284803
> $:/temp/advancedsearch
>
>
>
> On Friday, June 5, 2020 at 5:57:22 AM UTC+2, TonyM wrote:
>>
>> Folks,
>>
>> Some of you would be aware I have had a few problems of late with
>> upgrading tiddlywiki. The solution was to get rid of some overwitten shadow
>> tiddlers.
>>
>> I had no idea how this had occurred. But suspect I do now.
>>
>> However I just noted this;
>>
>> In a new empty.html use the advanced search filter [haschanged[]] and
>> this is the result
>>
>>
>> - *$:/library/sjcl.js*
>> - *$:/boot/bootprefix.js*
>> - *$:/boot/boot.js*
>> - *$:/boot/boot.css*
>> - *$:/core*
>> - *$:/isEncrypted*
>> - *$:/themes/tiddlywiki/snowwhite*
>> - *$:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla*
>> - *$:/temp/info-plugin*
>> - *$:/status/RequireReloadDueToPluginChange*
>> - *$:/StoryList*
>> - *$:/HistoryList*
>> - *$:/state/tab--1498284803*
>> - $:/temp/advancedsearch
>>
>>
>> *Are most of these not "false positives"?*
>>
>> *Now I must ask the question why are all these flagged as has changed?,*
>> especially since many are shadow tiddlers only, or plugins such as core?
>>
>> Note: I regularly exclude with -[prefix[$:/temp]] -[prefix[$:/state]]
>> -$:/StoryList -$:/HistoryList
>>
>> I have used the has changed filter to export and re-import tiddlers when
>> my server or saver has failed in someway, clearly if I do this I import and
>> overwrite these tiddlers, a subsequent upgrade will keep them, and seems to
>> throw errors and the resulting wiki may be broken.
>>
>> I also discovered on bob I need to exclude the following or I will also
>> may be in grief;
>>
>>
>> - -[prefix[$:/Bob]]
>> - -[prefix[$:/ServerIP]]
>> - -[prefix[$:/WikiSettings]]
>>
>> Now I understand these bob tiddlers may need to change.
>>
>> *However*
>> In all wikis you can see using the haschanged operator to escape problems
>> with the saving mechanisium is asking from trouble.
>>
>> Perhaps;
>> We could add a filter that does not list haschanges that are not as above
>> and allows plugins such as bob to register tiddlers that should not be
>> considered when trying to export changes. Excluding system tiddlers is not
>> enough if someone is editing system tiddlers even just configuration
>> tiddlers.
>>
>> The following would work if these false positives where not occurring.
>>
>> [haschanged[]] -[prefix[$:/temp]] -[prefix[$:/state]] -$:/StoryList
>> -$:/HistoryList -[prefix[$:/Bob]] -[prefix[$:/ServerIP]]
>> -[prefix[$:/WikiSettings]]
>>
>>
>> Regards
>> Tony
>>
>>
--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
"TiddlyWikiDev" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email
to [email protected].
To view this discussion on the web visit
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywikidev/6b1d83cf-cf92-4f49-8f53-f05a237e5671o%40googlegroups.com.
