Ciao TonyM At some point I think we should go through the whole of Unicode Basic Plane and give a chart of USEFUL GLYPHS FOR MARKUP. There are a lot of them, but they aren't infinite.
IMO understanding what is in Unicode AND supported in fonts on users machines by default is a primary issue. Thoughts TT On Monday, 2 November 2020 09:52:33 UTC+1, TonyM wrote: > > Idea, > > It would be quite simple to find all uses of glyphname=symbolname > throughout a wiki to provide a Editor toolbar drop down list of existing > glyph/symbol definitions and on click insert them at the current location > <glyph><symbol><space> so the custom definitions are easier to lookup and > select. Self documenting if the symbols are chosen well. > > Tony > > On Sunday, 1 November 2020 11:44:36 UTC+11, TonyM wrote: >> >> TT, >> >> I did read your history, it's Quite interesting. And to some extent I >> defer to you, but in my return quote I pointed out the "modern" use of >> Pilcrow. >> >> It is interesting to know where the indented 1st line of a paragraph >> comes from, something I have never liked the aesthetics of, to be honest. >> You may be interested in this >> https://unicode.org/L2/L2016/16235-two-medieval-chars.pdf >> >> What I do hope is in the end we can accommodate different mark-up needs, >> and in fact that is the value of this project. That is one reason I >> speculated if it were possible to have an end of line only mark-up symbol, >> not only because that is the way I would be inclined to use pilcrows, but >> to support other end of line annotations. I believe this may already be >> achieved with inline mark-up placed at the end of line. One persons end of >> line is another's beginning of line anyway, for example I can imagine ﹙¶ >> ﹚. >> >> I could see someone with the interest providing both the plugin and >> custom for anyone of these different systems. Not unlike they way a >> mathematician may extend tiddlywiki to their own mark-up language to >> represent complex maths, perhaps people may do this for old English, >> newspapers, PageMaker (One of the first professional printing applications >> and the use of postscript >> <https://www.hackworth.co/what-is-postscript-and-why-do-almost-all-high-end-printers-support-it/>). >> >> The key being people can make tiddlywiki their own, in new ways, through >> the value of mark-up. Or as an example people preparing medieval style >> texts or writing about them. >> >> One example I am aware of is using custom mark-up to write HTML via >> shortcuts. Combined with tiddlywiki's automation I have always seen the >> potential for tiddlywiki to be configured to be a site designer and >> generator as well, this is where using html elements are helpful. One thing >> that excites me a lot is using an "arbitrary html tag" inside a custom >> mark-up. Basically it allows the writer to contain custom css and other >> "semantically appropriate" sections in the document. Add to this >> transclusion and macros an one could potentially generate a website by >> filling in some content settings and export (via zip) a whole multi-page >> site. Could this be a SquareSpace Wix killer? I have experimented with >> connecting to html and external javascript and there is a lot of potential >> there for more host interaction, I just do not have the skills yet. >> >> Yet another thought of late, is in response to filters, logical operators >> and the fact that filters handle sets. It seems to me the introduction of >> annotation for basic set manipulations would also be helpful. See in the >> pre-release https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/#Filter%20Expression >> Equivalent >> named prefix >> >> Regards >> Tony >> >> >> On Sunday, 1 November 2020 03:57:52 UTC+11, @TiddlyTweeter wrote: >>> >>> TonyM wrote: >>>> >>>> ¶ >>>> I would not bother with the use of pilcrow unless it was part of an end >>>> of line form of glyph only. >>>> >>> >>> Pilcrow has a complex history before printing, in printing & on the net. >>> They all diverge & overlap. >>> >>> Essentially the paragraph "mark" is a signal for a "longer pause" in >>> thought in all incarnations. >>> >>> I mention a bit of its history in some comments to PMario above. >>> >>> Best wishes >>> TT >>> >>> >>> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWikiDev" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywikidev+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywikidev/f40d1b75-2425-4518-96a5-a24b42fb01a4o%40googlegroups.com.
