WarrenS wrote:
> Bill Hawkins
>
> >From a theoretical standpoint, Zero Volts is the lower noise limit 
>
> If you want to reduce the measurement noise of a system you need to do one or 
> more of the following:
>
> Lower the source impedance, by reducing the resistance of the thing you are 
> measuring
> Lower the Bandwidth, by filtering over a longer time period
> Lower the temperature, by making it colder.
>
> Doing even any one of these things enough will in theory let the noise 
> approach zero, When you do two (or all three) at once the noise will approach 
> zero sooner.
> see "Johnson-Nyquist noise" for the details
>
> >From a practical standpoint, 1 nV of resolution is doable by comparing the 
> >difference between two voltage sources if one uses a lot of care and applies 
> >some form of extra filtering. 
> A  1nV  (1e-9) is way below the noise level of any voltage standard that puts 
> out volts.
> This means reference measurements are not limited by the noise level when 
> using a good but simple setup until the references gets to be in the 3e-10 
> precision range.
>
>   
Modern voltage references are somewhat noisier than standard cells and
batteries (at zero load current).
For the adventurous, recipes for constructing stable Weston standard
cells are readily available.
> The answer to "What can an amateur do to get a good low noise reference for 
> less than, say, $500"
> IS shop at the US eBay site.
>
> WarrenS
>
>   
Bruce

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