-185dBW = -155dBm
so both sensitivity measures are equivalent.

Bruce

Peter Vince wrote:
Thanks Ed, yes, I hadn't looked closely enough at the pictures.

The "higher sensitivity" I mentioned came from the second line of the
"Features" section near the bottom of:
http://www.semiconductorstore.com/cart/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=41599

"Enables indoor use -173 dBW acquisition and -185 dBW tracking"

although admittedly right underneath that in the "Specifications"
section is does say:

"Track Sensitivity: -155 dBm"

A cased of "specmanship"?

      Peter



2009/12/29 Ed Palmer<[email protected]>:
The CW-12 consists of the CW-25 mounted on a circuit board with some glue
logic, connectors, etc.  The CW-25 itself is the surface-mount module in the
middle of the CW-12.  Compare the pictures - you'll see what I mean.  Both units
are listed as having a tracking sensitivity of -155 dbm.  I don't know what you
mean when you say that the CW-25 is more sensitive.

By the way, the CW-12 works great indoors.  Through a typical wood-frame
construction I usually get 7 or 8 satellites with a cheap active patch antenna.
With a VIC-100 timing antenna, I usually have 10 or more satellites.  1 PPS
  performance is also very good.  Multiple measurements of 1000 periods
shows a standard deviation of<5 ns with a min-max range of<  30 ns.  This is
without sawtooth correction because this unit doesn't support it - even with the
Motorola software.

Ed

----- Original Message -----
From: Peter Vince<[email protected]>
Date: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 10:21 am
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Timenoob - Cheap and simple 10MHz reference

Semiconductorstore.com also have the CW25-TIM at a cheaper price ($64
vs $89) and it is more sensitive, so can possibly work indoors.  They
both, apparently, use the same NavSync chips, so does the '25 have
disadvantages I haven't spotted?

     Peter


2009/12/28 Hal Murray<[email protected]>:
Does the factory sell direct in small quantities ?
 From here (California), googling for>Navsync CW12-TIM<  finds:

http://www.semiconductorstore.com/pages/asp/supplier.asp?pl=0138&gclid=CL_G5ar> 
 W-Z4CFU1M5Qod1XNWLA
(Sorry for the line wrap.)
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