Dear all,

After very mild amount of homework, I think a followup was due.

Magnus Danielson wrote:
Peter Vince wrote:
2009/12/26 Robert Lutwak <[email protected]>:
...
CSAC is intended for portable battery-powered operation. Surely your
basement has the space and wallplug power to support an LPRO. (p.s. don't
cool the damn thing, heat it).
...

Hi Robert,

     Do I understand you are suggesting heating an LPRO, not cooling
it?  That seems to go against what I understood, that greater cooling
leads to increased life.

While not directed to me, these are my understandings:

Besides the power applied to heat the Rb lamp, the physical package needs to be at the sweet-spot in temperature, so heating is performed.

Looking in the LPRO manual, as found in say:
http://www.ham-radio.com/sbms/LPRO-101.pdf
and the LPRO repair-guide:
http://www.radcomms.net/EFRATOM%20LPRO%20101%20Repair%20Guide.pdf

The Rb lamp heats to 110 C and the physical package to 78 C.
Notice also figure 1.3 displaying power dissapation as a funciton of baseplate temperature. The simplified model for power consumption in chapter 3.2.3 gives a good hint about what is going on. For 20 degrees the RF lamp consumes about 1,7 W where as for 70 degrees it consumed about 750 mW. Similarly, for 20 degrees the physical package heating consumes about 3,8 W where as for 70 degrees it constumed about 520 mW. Thus, allowing the increase of baseplate temperature from 20 degrees to 70 degrees reduces the Rubidium assembly heating from a total of 5,5 W to 1,3 W. Looking at figure 1.3 and the equation again, we see that about 280 mA derives from the other electronics and that a lower (18 V) supply has significant shift in power. Thus, by paying attention to supplied power and baseplate temperature and cooling (which becomes more important to maintain baseplate below 70 degrees) less power dissapation can be achieved. With that in hand, both passive and active ovenizing could be considered. 5-6 W is significantly lower than 12-13 W and should allow for simpler solutions.

There is also hints about how to temperature compensate the LPRO by steering the C-field from a temperature sensor. A sensible ovenization should reduce the need of such approaches, even if possible. Boxing one up similar to that of Thunderbolts may be the way to go.

Cheers,
Magnus

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