Hi Bob;
Quartz is of course and art so generally speaking the BVA is great very close 
in, but at 1Hz they do not have much if any better performance. And further out 
the Wenzel's noise floor is about 20dB below the BVA . Factor in that the Blue 
Top cost(appr $6000) is about 1/4 of a BVA (appr$25000) and it seems almost 
cheap. I response to an eariler question I think corning makes most of HP's 
10811 era and Wenzel Blanks. I wish I could find a couple Blue Tops at a 
reasonable price. and while I am at it I wish I could also find a Beach House 
in New Zealand for cheap.

Thomas Knox



> From: li...@rtty.us
> To: time-nuts@febo.com
> Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 10:56:44 -0400
> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] HP-106 and Sulzer Quartz Crystals
> 
> Hi
> 
> For a time standard crystal, the real question is "how much room do you
> have?". If volume / power / cost is not a concern, there are a lot of ways
> you could go. The market has moved away from the big old beasts mainly
> because people simply don't have the room for them any more.
> 
> That said, a BVA running on a 5th overtone at about 1 MHz in a 4" or so
> glass bottle likely would do pretty well. I suspect you could get a batch
> made for around $1M.
> 
> Bob
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On
> Behalf Of Tom Knox
> Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 10:47 AM
> To: Time-Nuts
> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] HP-106 and Sulzer Quartz Crystals
> 
> 
> Ron;
> I think the Wenzel Blue Tops are very good. 
> 
> Thomas Knox
> 
> 
> 
> > From: n6idl...@comcast.net
> > To: time-nuts@febo.com
> > Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 22:31:25 -0700
> > Subject: [time-nuts] HP-106 and Sulzer Quartz Crystals
> > 
> > Hi:
> > 
> > Does anyone know who made the crystal for the HP-106 and / or Sulzer
> > oscillators?
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Is Bliley Electric Company still in business? They use to sell a 5th
> > overtone precision quartz crystal for "frequency standard" use.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Where could you find the ultimate crystal today for a frequency standard?
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > Ron
> > 
> >  
> > 
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