Dear Bob,

I agree. I have been playing around with two TBolts for my thesis work and they 
are just great. HP as some circles have stated, are plug and forget GPSDOs. 
Still I love the looks, construction and the fact that they match with the rest 
of the HP equipment here in the lab. 

As I continue working on both the HP and the TBolt units, I will try to share 
my experiences, despite they will not be up to the level some folks here have 
achieved. I am moving in small steps but gaining experience and learning in the 
process. Always with a good attitude and looking to have some fun during the 
process. 

Thank you!



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On Oct 14, 2012, at 8:39 AM, Bob Camp <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi
> 
> I've been using Ulrich's software on my 3805's as well. 
> 
> Trimble and HP took different approaches on their GPSDO's. Trimble lets you 
> get into things and fiddle around. HP is much more a black box. I have never 
> seen anything that lets you "fiddle' with one of the HP units. Things like 
> loop gain, time constant, DAC settings that are configurable on the Trimble 
> are not accessible on the HP. HP only lets you do the satellite mask and 
> re-survey sort of stuff. You can monitor status, you just can't do much about 
> it...
> 
> Bob
> 
> On Oct 14, 2012, at 9:23 AM, John Ackermann N8UR <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> On the unit I bought from fluke.l, with a "Samsung" label, there are two 
>> serial ports.  The bottom one is the control port and is definitely RS-232.  
>> The top port has only three wires (TXD, RXD, SG) and I think is used for 
>> some sort of monitoring.
>> 
>> I've been using Ulrich's "z38xx" software to monitor it with good success.
>> 
>> John
>> ----
>> 
>> Edgardo Molina said the following on 10/13/2012 10:18 PM:
>>> Dear Group,
>>> 
>>> Good evening. I bought two HP Z3805A units a few weeks ago. They were bare 
>>> units without antenna or power supply. After struggling to find a suitable 
>>> 24V 3A noise free power supply for each of them, I mounted a couple of 
>>> Symmetricom antennas and just fired them up.
>>> 
>>> After around 25 minutes, the GPS Lock light lighted up. As the manual for 
>>> this particular model is unobtainable in several searches through the 
>>> Internet, I found that the readily available manual for the Z3801A would 
>>> cover much of the Z3905A operation. I also got a software for monitoring 
>>> the operation from BD Systems Inc. In Colorado. Now that I am sure both are 
>>> operating and locked only by looking at the front panel lights, I would 
>>> like to ask a couple of questions regarding their communication to the PC.
>>> 
>>> 1. Is the DB-25 serial port carrying RS-232 signals? I see the port of the 
>>> Z380A1 is different: RS-422.
>>> 2. If the port is plain RS-232 is it possible to use a Serial to USB 
>>> adapter? I have heard about the inconsistencies that such an adapter could 
>>> cause when used with a TBolt. Should I assume this is the same case with 
>>> the Z3805A?
>>> 3. There was once a project for building a TBolt state monitor on a 2 line 
>>> LCD screen. I own three of those monitors and they are just great.  Is 
>>> there an equivalent for these HP GPS units?
>>> 
>>> Any suggestions for the operation of these units and your ever expert and 
>>> kind advise is always welcome. You all have a nice weekend!
>>> 
>>> Kindest regards,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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