I agree, Bill. I do have some elk in the front yard, but they are no
help...
Don L
Bill Dailey
> No MIT here.  Sadly.
>
> Sent from mobile
>
> On Dec 4, 2012, at 8:49 AM, paul swed <paulsw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Basements the key. So for me bigger is better. Heck if its a rack
>> thats ok.
>> It gets interesting in what types of components you can use if you are
>> willing to go larger.
>> Great point on the laser and optics. Funny thing is for small change
>> you
>> can actually get used optics bench components at least at the last MIT
>> flea
>> I ran across the items. They were snapped up by the way.
>> From what I have seen of time-nuttery and Hydrogen masers I am
>> actually not
>> all that sure its beyond this group.
>> Regards
>> Paul
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 9:34 AM, Bob Camp <li...@rtty.us> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> Indeed, you likely won't get USNO grade with a shoe box sized part.
>>> You can
>>> get one to work and do quite good ADEV. No, I haven't done it, I'm
>>> just
>>> going on what I've been told. The main point being that for a
>>> basement
>>> project - smaller is probably lower cost.
>>>
>>> Bob
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com]
>>> On
>>> Behalf Of Poul-Henning Kamp
>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 9:19 AM
>>> To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement; Bill Dailey
>>> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] PTTI 2012, part 2
>>>
>>> --------
>>> In message
>>> <CAMPhiorJihW9z6-q0+Qfd+GPLjs6e8_ovWrDxQoxV=92hgj...@mail.gmail.com>
>>> , Bill Dailey writes:
>>>
>>>> If you look at the papers on portable rubidium fountains
>>>> they are significantly bigger than a shoebox (65 cm).
>>>
>>> Diameter is controlled by dispersion of the launched atoms (=recovery
>>> rate)
>>> and the layers of shielding.
>>>
>>> 65cm looked like close to a minimum for USNO grade, amateurs could
>>> probably
>>> make do with less shielding.
>>>
>>> --
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