On 12/31/12 12:55 AM, Hal Murray wrote:

[email protected] said:
When designing the system to do coherent two way ranging to the Juno
spacecraft orbiting Jupiter, we found that the rotating magnetic field
(because the spacecraft spins at 2RPM in Jupiter's magnetic field) was
enough to modulate the circuits that track the received signal and  generate
the transmitted signal ( basically a PLL)...

How strong is the magnetic field near Jupiter?  I assume big, but maybe the
orbiters don't get that close.

Big, and pretty close.. Juno has a highly elliptical polar orbit, and they want to get close because that gives you the best data for all the sensors. For instance, for radio science, where we're measuring the speed of the spacecraft to infer gravitational field, the closer you are, the better the resolution (because you're affected more by what's closer to you than what's farther away). (GRACE flew a few tens of km above the Moon's surface for this reason)

I'll see what I can find. it was bigger than Earth's field, I seem to recall.



How did you test it?  I'd guess a big chamber with big Helmholtz coils.

Exactly. We do that anyway for spacecraft equipment: there's typically magnetometers on the spacecraft to measure the magnetic fields, so they impose limits on how much field you can make (and what your static field is). It was unusual for us telecom folks to worry about magnetic susceptibility. Usually, they're beating up on us about the permanent magnets in ferrite isolators or the field from the TWTA.

One unusual thing is that most of the test facilities apparently aren't necessarily set up for a 1/30th Hz (2 RPM) rotating field (which requires changing the currents in multiple axes at the same time, etc.).


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I just took a fridge magnet to my box of (somewhat?) good oscillators.  The 2
big ones had steel cases.  The smaller Vectron had a steel base but
non-magnetic top.

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[email protected] said:
A bigger concern might be if you're locking something you care about to
that oscillator.  The PLL might be more sensitive (particularly things  like
the op amp circuitry driving the VCO... there's probably some sort  of
physical loop in the wiring between the inverting and noninverting  inputs
of the op amp.

Does that mean we should put that stuff into a steel box?  (With junk like
power supplies outside.)


I think that's exactly what the obsessives up the Frequency and Timing Lab do. Soft iron or mu metal, not steel, also..

For stuff I have to do: I'll watch the layout of the PWB to minimize the loop area. It's good practice anyway to reduce coupling in or out.


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