Hi

If you re-tune the Rb, the already divided down output on the pps will be at a 
really odd rate. You can use it, but unwrapping the phase is going to be 
"interesting" (= it will wrap a lot).

There are other ways to do things. One is to synthesize a highly accurate 100Hz 
off of the Rb output. That's going to require some dividers. You also get into 
the multiple phase wrap issue quicker than with a pps.  

Bob




On Sep 17, 2013, at 9:07 PM, Bob Stewart <[email protected]> wrote:

> D'oh!  But is there a way I can run for let's say 200 pulses on the B channel 
> and see the count on the A channel?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> ________________________________
>> From: Bob Camp <[email protected]>
>> To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement 
>> <[email protected]> 
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 7:54 PM
>> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] My FE-5680A Came In Today
>> 
>> 
>> Hi
>> 
>> For checking things like GPSDO's the pps is actually much more useful than 
>> the 10 MHz. Just do the count one to the other trick and you have a very 
>> good way to test what's going on. In it's normal configuration it should 
>> tune to within about 1 ppt of the proper frequency. That would be 10,000,000 
>> Hz / 1,000,000,000,000  or 1 ns every thousand seconds on the pps. 
>> 
>> Bob
>> 
>> On Sep 17, 2013, at 8:37 PM, Bob Stewart <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I'm just looking for an accurate standard for my GSPDO PLL coding.  As it 
>>> is, I've been depending on others who have these to tell me the code works. 
>>>  I understand that when these are retuned to 10MHz, they're .005Hz off due 
>>> to the DDS.  I'm good with that.  =)
>>> 
>>> Bob
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> ________________________________
>>>> From: Bob Camp <[email protected]>
>>>> To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement 
>>>> <[email protected]> 
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 7:30 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] My FE-5680A Came In Today
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Hi
>>>> 
>>>> Keep in mind that these things make a pretty awful 10 MHz standard. They 
>>>> are spur monsters in a big way. They won't drive your counter nuts, but 
>>>> for anything that wants signal purity - watch out.
>>>> 
>>>> Bob
>>>> 
>>>> On Sep 17, 2013, at 8:14 PM, Bob Stewart <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Bob,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Yeah, I figured that retuning it would lose the 1PPS.  No biggie.  There 
>>>>> are a number of those little connectors in this device, and the two that 
>>>>> have cables connected use a flat 90 degree connector with a coax that's a 
>>>>> bit smaller than RG-174.  I just want to snap a pigtail on it and lead it 
>>>>> out through a notch in the cover where the DB-9 connector is.  There are 
>>>>> several examples on the web where people solder wires to the connector 
>>>>> and to the RS-232 header.  I'd just as soon avoid soldering wires if I 
>>>>> can.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Bob
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>> From: Bob Camp <[email protected]>
>>>>>> To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement 
>>>>>> <[email protected]> 
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 7:06 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] My FE-5680A Came In Today
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If you retune it, you probably will throw off the pps. The pps drive 
>>>>>> strength is a bit weak, so you need to be careful looking for it. On 
>>>>>> some units there is a software command to enable / disable it (as in pps 
>>>>>> only when warmed up and locked - like a gps). The can / cover on the 
>>>>>> unit is mu metal (Rb's are mag sensitive). If you drill a hole in it, 
>>>>>> you are likely to impact it's mag shielding properties. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Bob
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sep 17, 2013, at 6:21 PM, Bob Stewart <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> My FE-5680A Rb standard came in today.  After the usual inspections 
>>>>>>> etc, I fired it up and I have the purple haze.  The native output is 
>>>>>>> 8.38860798/9 (last digit jitter) as read on my 5335A using my GPSDO as 
>>>>>>> an external standard.  I've got a ways to go before it's all setup, but 
>>>>>>> this is looking good.  Does it warmup and change frequency at all, or 
>>>>>>> can I retune it to 10MHz and use it as a reference without any further 
>>>>>>> ado?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Can someone tell me what type of socket that is where you tap off the 
>>>>>>> RF?  It looks sort of like a uFL connector, but a bit bigger.  I'd 
>>>>>>> rather avoid hacking and soldering on this if I can.  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Bob - AE6RV
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