Jim,

I also found my notes for other unit. It sweeps from 9.9997414 to 10.0000493 and also locks in 3 minutes.

Regards,
Ignacio EB4APL



On 15/12/2013 2:26, EB4APL wrote:
Jim,

My unit, according to my notes, sweeps between 9.999766 MHz and 10.000056 MHz and locks in 3 minutes from cold start. Maybe you have to move the frequency a bit towards the low side.

Regards,
Ignacio EB4APL


On 15/12/2013 0:27, ewkehren wrote:
One thing you also should do is set the tuning, even if it sweeps through 10 MHz if outside the lock range it will not lock. I have seen it.
Bert




Sent from Samsung tablet"Jamieson (Jim) Rowe" <jimr...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:Hi Bert,

Thank you too for your tips and suggestions. I thought there might be 'some'
analog circuitry in the 5680A, because the photodetector output from the
'far end' of the Rb resonance cavity probably needs some amplification,
before its 'strong enough' to be fed into an A-to-D converter. In any case
the schematic I found in the time-nuts archive doesn't seem to include
anything in the 'physics package' -- the Rb lamp oscillator, the microwave oscillator feeding the resonance cavity, the photodetector and its output amplifier or whatever. So it looks as if I'm going to have to search around
in that area myself...

Anyway Bert, thanks again and all the best for the festive season.

Jim Rowe
Sydney, Australia

-----Original Message-----
From: ewkeh...@aol.com
Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2013 12:49 AM
To: time-nuts@febo.com
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Schematic for the 'analog' section of an FE-5680A?

Jim
unlike older Rb's there is very little analog in the unit. It is sweeping trough its lock range so maybe you may find something around the lamp. The
lamp should not be the problem because the 5680 has not been around  and
been operating for extensive time before pulled.
How ever I like to caution time nuts and be careful who they buy from, I
did have a bad experience with one vendor and I did post it previously.
False claim of new and when returned after return authorization refused
refund
since I refused to give a 5 star rating. I forwarded the emails to ebay and
they did nothing. So any time nut that buys from ggg* fitting deserves
what he is getting. We have other sources out there that time nuts have
good
experiences with and with the price increasing by a factor of 4 one should
be careful. Personally I do not think they are worse the price
Bert Kehren Miami


In a message dated 12/12/2013 4:30:57 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
jimr...@optusnet.com.au writes:

Hi,

I’m  an elderly time-nut newby, and I’ve already struck trouble with a
used FE-5680  Rb-vapour reference
I bought via eBay. It runs (from +16V and +5V), and the  current drain
starts at 1.75A and then drops over
5 minutes or so down to about 650mA. But it won’t lock, even if I leave it
powered up for a few hours  (with a fan
to keep it from getting too hot).

The output frequency  just keeps switching up and down between about
9999850Hz and 10000080Hz, with  a bit of ‘lingering’
near each end. And of course the ‘lock’ output at pin 3 stays stubbornly
at about 4.35V.

To my newby brain, this sounds like the problem is either in the Rb lamp
(too dark, perhaps), or
else in the  photodetector and buffer, etc, forming the ‘dip detector’
part of the feedback  loop.

Could one of you much-more-experienced time-nutters tell me if my
diagnosis sounds right?

Also, I’ve found a schematic for the digital sections of the FE-5680A in
your archives, kindly drawn up
by one of your  very experienced members, but has anyone done a similar
schematic for the  ‘analog’
sections?  I suspect I’m going to have to work out for  myself where to
test for a fault in these
sections. There’s also a bit of a mystery (in my mind, at least) regarding
that little 2-pin SIL  header
just near the Rb lamp, on the top of the PCB. Anyone know what that’s for?

All the best in anticipation, folks.

Jim  Rowe

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