Volker,

On 01/03/14 12:15, Volker Esper wrote:
Hello dear fellow time-nuts,

I stumbled over a question that may sound stupid to you:

Is the usual ADEV plot the result of a phase or a frequency measurement?

I get totally different results when comparing a phase and a frequency
measurement of the same source. Or am I doing something totally wrong?

The core of the ADEV is the square of the second degree derivate of phase, where the phase measures are tau seconds away from each other.

You can use frequency measures, but it is likely that the start-point of the next measure is not the end point of the previous frequency measure. Then you have dead-time. Dead-time causes a bias in the ADEV measure and you need to use the dead-time bias function to compensate for this effect. This was explained by Dave Allan in his Feb 1966 article, as the 2-point dead-time free variance was the unification of a large range of different measures, and he supplied the bias functions to unify them. Now that there was one variance to forge them all, they kept referring to it as Allan's variance and well, it's now history.

Another aspect is that your counter may do some "smart" filtering on the measures it makes. This reduces the bandwidth of the counter as the averaging removes noise. This also causes low-tau values that has white-phase noise to be lower than expected. This "improvement" is however not helping you to get better ADEV, it just fools you, as the ADEV of white phase noise will depend on the measurement bandwidth, known for a long time but ignored my many measurement setups.

I've tried to cover these topics on the Allan Variance Wikipedia article.

I would avoid using frequency measures from counters if phase measures can be made, as you can avoid both these issues rather than requiring to measure their effect and compensate for it. It is tricky to maintain valid numbers that way.

There are cases where ADEV is better calculated from frequency measures, so it is a valid tool, but care always needs to be taken to make sure the numbers remains scaled properly.

Cheers,
Magnus
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