Hi

I believe the paper was by Stan Shadowski. I’m *certain* I’ve mis-spelled his 
last name, which is indeed a very poor move on my part. I would not be 
surprised if there are several co-authors. 

I don’t have the UFC indexes here at home so I have no quick way to look it up. 

Bob

On Mar 2, 2014, at 7:40 PM, Jim Lux <[email protected]> wrote:

>>>> As Jim mentions in another post, you can run on the fundamental and the 
>>>> third (or 5th or 7th) and get a thermometer out of the delta between the 
>>>> two modes. The gotcha is that a change in load impedance will shift the 
>>>> frequencies unequally. That will give you an apparent temperature change.
>>> 
>>> I already know about the fundamental and third trick, my question was if it 
>>> could be done to AT-cut as well. I interpret your statement as yes, it 
>>> does. I don't trust it to be perfect, but reasonable. Ideas for means to 
>>> handle shift would be welcome.
>> 
>> It was originally proposed by a very nice guy from Ft. Monmouth for use with 
>> AT cut resonators. I believe the paper is in the FCS proceedings from the 
>> mid 1980’s. The DOD kept rights to the technique and licensed it to a couple 
>> of oscillator companies.
> 
> 
> Hmm.   SC cut, perhaps? (see the third reference down..
> 
> R. L. Filler and J. R. Vig, “Resonators for the microcomputer compensated 
> crystal oscillator,” 43rd Ann. Symp. Freq. Contr., pp. 8- 15, 1989.
> 
> 
> there's also
> 
> The microcomputer compensated crystal oscillator (MCXO)
> 
> Bloch, M. ; Frequency Electron. Inc., Mitchel Field, NY, USA ; Meirs, M. ; 
> Ho, J.
> The MCXO uses a novel technique to achieve temperature compensation without 
> the use of ovens or conventional temperature-compensating components. The 
> crystal oscillator in the MCXO, which is free to vary with temperature, 
> operates on two modes simultaneously-the fundamental and the third overtone. 
> Several advantages accrue because this method of temperature compensation 
> does not resort to frequency pulling. The authors presents the details of how 
> the MCXO operates and the details of the performance of the delivered systems
> Published in:
> Frequency Control, 1989., Proceedings of the 43rd Annual Symposium on
> Date of Conference:
> 31 May-2 Jun 1989
> 
> Page(s):
>    16 - 19
> Meeting Date :
>    31 May 1989-02 Jun 1989
> INSPEC Accession Number:
>    3685419
> 
> Conference Location :
>    Denver, CO
> Digital Object Identifier :
>    10.1109/FREQ.1989.68853
> 
> 
> 
> 
> But then,
> 
> Yoonkee Kim (from Ft Monmouth)
> has a paper (DTIC ADA484423)
> Aging of Dual Mode Resonator for Microcomputer Compensated Crystal Oscillator
> Abstract— A Microcomputer Compensated Crystal Oscillator (MCXO) utilizes the 
> dual c-mode excitation (fundamental mode and 3rd overtone (OT)) of an SC-cut 
> resonator for self- temperature sensing and compensation. The long-term 
> stability of the MCXO depends primarily on the aging of the dual mode 
> resonator. When two modes age differently in time, the aging MCXO’s output 
> frequency curve would shift with a tilt over its operating temperature range
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