Hi

A traveling clock process is still the only way to fully validate a local time 
setup. The NIST modems can get close, but a clock (second opinion) is the only 
way to be sure.

Bob

On Mar 3, 2014, at 9:09 PM, Tom Van Baak <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Jim,
> 
> Nice video. I had not see that old one before. Someone at NPL must be going 
> through archives. That's very nice of them to post it. Did anyone spot the 
> date of the filming?
> 
> My understanding is that the era of traveling clocks gradually ended as 
> various methods of satellite time transfer began. However people still use 
> "traveling clocks" today as a backup for GPS, or to double check GPS, or in 
> places where GPS cannot be received, or when one needs accurate results 
> quickly without waiting for GPS averaging or post-processing. So the practice 
> is not dead. Most recently we all saw it used to validate the neutrino timing 
> experiments.
> 
> Traveling clocks can also be used to demonstrate time dilation: 
> http://leapsecond.com/great2005/
> 
> For more info on the traveling clock era make sure to read these four HPJ 
> articles:
> 
> World-Wide Time Synchronization, 1966
> http://www.hpl.hp.com/hpjournal/pdfs/IssuePDFs/1966-08.pdf, page 13
> 
> A New Performance of the "Flying Clock" Experiment
> http://www.hpl.hp.com/hpjournal/pdfs/IssuePDFs/1964-07.pdf, page 1
> 
> Correlating Time from Europe to Asia with Flying Clocks
> http://www.hpl.hp.com/hpjournal/pdfs/IssuePDFs/1965-04.pdf, page 1
> 
> 'Flying Clock' Comparisons Extended to East Europe, Africa and Australia
> http://www.hpl.hp.com/hpjournal/pdfs/IssuePDFs/1967-12.pdf
> 
> /tvb
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jimmy Burrell" <[email protected]>
> To: "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement" 
> <[email protected]>
> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2014 5:17 PM
> Subject: [time-nuts] Time transfer, internationally before GPS
> 
> 
>> My apologies to the list if this has been posted before but I found it 
>> fascinating. I'm guessing this was early 60's.
>> 
>> I wonder if this practice continued until the advent of GPS? I be interested 
>> to know if there was an interim technology and what it was.
>> 
>> http://youtu.be/SXV4c5eVkE4
>> 
>> 
>> Jim...
>> N5SPE
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