Hi Bob et al,
I don't understand the direction this question about the supercap has taken.  
It's connected to pin 1 of the GPS receiver.  It looks to be a UT+, so that's 
the battery backup power.  According to my UT+ manual the current draw on this 
pin is between 5uA (at 2.5V) and 100uA (at 5V)?  How many hours will a .022F 
supercap keep at least 2.5V at that sort of discharge rate?  Unless the cap has 
gone bad, it seems more likely that Bob's comment about it doing a fast survey 
and then doing a slower one in the background probably has merit.  In fact, my 
unit goes through its survey mode pretty quickly on power up.  So do those 
current/voltage figures imply several hours on the cap?

Bob
     From: Bob Camp <[email protected]>
 To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement <[email protected]> 
 Sent: Friday, October 31, 2014 9:22 PM
 Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Lucent KS-24361, HP/Symmetricom Z3809A, Z3810A, 
Z3811A, Z3812A GPSDO system
   
Hi

I sort of doubt that a GPS aux supply is quite that low current. I have seen 
some RTC’s that won’t last a month on a coin cell. My recollection is that the 
Oncore backup is closer to that category than the “many years on a cap” group.

Bob


> On Oct 31, 2014, at 9:26 PM, Brooke Clarke <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi Bob:
> 
> When HP came out with the 300 series Rocky Mountain Basic computers they were 
> fitted with a super cap to power the RTC.
> I will keep time for some months.
> http://www.prc68.com/I/HPIB.shtml#300
> 
> Mail_Attachment --
> Have Fun,
> 
> Brooke Clarke
> http://www.PRC68.com
> http://www.end2partygovernment.com/2012Issues.html
> http://www.prc68.com/I/DietNutrition.html
> Bob Camp wrote:
>> Hi
>> 
>> The ultra cap is a pretty small one (physical small). You might be able to 
>> find a larger (more farads) one that would fit in the same space. It’s not 
>> going to help for a hours and hours sort of outage. It might get you from 
>> dying in 15 minutes to dying in a half hour.
>> 
>> Bob

  
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