Yep - got a bounce notice today. Did not send anything I believe.

Why must this be so hard? Would there be some huge cost
involved in getting a more forgiving server setup that does not
throw out all but the most primitive text. The FMT-nuts is a good
example of something that works well and accepts photos and graphics.

I would post many circuits and other
time nuttery stuff but the server arrangement make it just too much trouble.

So I don't bother.? 

Best regards to all? john K6IQL



 



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Message: 1 
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2014 08:54:04 -0500 
From: Mark Kahrs <[email protected]> 
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement 
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Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Hydrogen Maser KIT! Update #1 
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There's been a  fair number of papers from Hahvahd about bulb coating for 
masers.  Interestingly enough, here's a patent: 
 
http://www.google.com/patents/US3859119 
 
from 1972. 
 
I had to figure this out, but Yuri is referring to flourophosgene a.k.a. 
carbonyl flouride. 
 
If you'd like to read a really nice detailed paper on bulb coating for Rb 
cells, try this one out: 
 
http://walsworth.physics.harvard.edu/publications/1999_Phillips_otherdoc.pdf 
 
 
On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 3:46 PM, Chuck Harris <[email protected]> wrote: 
 
> Hi Yuri, 
> 
> It would be a very good idea to keep the temperature of 
> the nichrome wire low, and that might be the biggest problem 
> with the vacuum deposition technique... the wire could get 
> too hot in some places, and stay too cool in others. 
> 
> A really uncontrolled experiment, aka: a thermal wire stripper, 
> gets covered with white snow from the teflon vapor released 
> while stripping teflon wire. 
> 
> -Chuck Harris 
> 
> Yuri Ostry wrote: 
> 
>> Hello, 
>> 
>> Monday, November 3, 2014, 5:40:30, Chuck Harris wrote: 
>> 
>> C> I would think that making the teflon coating would be pretty 
easy. 
>> 
>> C> What I would try is to put a nichrome boat, and some teflon into 
the 
>> C> vessel, and pull it down to a good vacuum.  Then heat up the 
boat, 
>> C> and the teflon should sublime, and condense on the walls of the 
>> C> vessel. 
>> 
>> C> The nichrome boat could be something as simple as wrapping the 
nichrome 
>> C> into a solenoid form around some teflon rod. 
>> 
>> C> -Chuck Harris 
>> 
>> Teflon decomposes at high temperatures, releasing some sublimate and a 
>> lot of really nasty chemicals, like fluorfosgen. There is a chance 
>> that really thin even coating can be produced this way, but a lot of 
>> experimentation would be needed. 
>> 
>> I would try to take samples of PTFE-insulated hookup wire (from 
different 
>> manufacturers, say white Alfa or Belden wire and russian MGTF wire 
that 
>> use 
>> slightly different PTFE formula) and try to make coating inside glass 
>> tube samples, using copper wire as heater by itself. 
>> 
>> I doubt that there will be good results, though. "Classic" way with 
>> thin slurry application and heating to teflon melt point to make solid 
>> film may be more "realistic". 
>> 
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Message: 2 
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2014 10:12:18 -0500 
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Subject: [time-nuts] AOL Email Issues 
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Is anyone else with an AOL email address still seeing problems? 
  
I'm receiving some, but not all, of my own posts to the  list, with the  
"bounce" count on my time-nuts subscription page going up  accordingly. 
  
It seems to have reset a couple of times recently but is now up to 4   
again, and the rate at which posts are missed seems to  be increasing. 
  
I've checked my settings and all seems ok so would be interested to know if  
 this is just me or whether there are still wider issues? 
  
Regards 
  
Nigel 
GM8PZR 
 
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Message: 3 
Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2014 16:34:25 +0100 
From: Adrian <[email protected]> 
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement 
        <[email protected]> 
Subject: [time-nuts] Varian R-20 Rubidium Frequency Standard 
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I got a nice old Varian R-20 rubidium frequency standard that would be 
nice to get working. 
To begin with, there is at least a problem with the voltage regulator 
circuit. 
 
Does anyone have a manual? I couldn't locate anything on the web. 
 
Regards, 
Adrian 
 
 
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Message: 4 
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2014 10:58:26 -0500 
From: paul swed <[email protected]> 
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement 
        <[email protected]> 
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Varian R-20 Rubidium Frequency Standard 
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Wow varian made RBs. Learned something today and sorry no manual. 
Regards 
Paul 
WB8TSL 
 
On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 10:34 AM, Adrian <[email protected]> wrote: 
 
> I got a nice old Varian R-20 rubidium frequency standard that would be 
> nice to get working. 
> To begin with, there is at least a problem with the voltage regulator 
> circuit. 
> 
> Does anyone have a manual? I couldn't locate anything on the web. 
> 
> Regards, 
> Adrian 
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Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2014 09:00:02 -0800 
From: Said Jackson <[email protected]> 
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, Discussion of precise 
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Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> 
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] AOL Email Issues 
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Same here Nigel, 
 
However I seem to have gotten about 200+ emails about a Lucent GPSDO over the  
last couple of days so something is working, or the list simply got inundated  
with Lucent KS-24361 related emails. 
 
Bye, 
Said 
 
Sent from my iPad 
 
On Nov 4, 2014, at 7:12, GandalfG8--- via time-nuts <[email protected]> 
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> Is anyone else with an AOL email address still seeing problems? 
>  
> I'm receiving some, but not all, of my own posts to the  list, with the  
> "bounce" count on my time-nuts subscription page going up  accordingly. 
>  
> It seems to have reset a couple of times recently but is now up to 4   
> again, and the rate at which posts are missed seems to  be increasing. 
>  
> I've checked my settings and all seems ok so would be interested to know 
if  
> this is just me or whether there are still wider issues? 
>  
> Regards 
>  
> Nigel 
> GM8PZR 
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