Hi Ulrich,

Indeed. Some LTC and they have very nice performance.
You got a manual to go with it?

Corby has some interesting mods for them, Poul-Henning is looking at further improvements.

Cheers,
Magnus

On 03/16/2016 09:24 PM, KA2WEU--- via time-nuts wrote:
In my closet I found one of these, any merit to play with it  ?

Ulrich


In a message dated 3/14/2016 5:00:28 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
[email protected] writes:

Hi

Shouldn´t 5x10^-11 over 50C be 1x10^-12 / C? So with  2-4°C variation it is
2-4x10^-12.

What about pressure variations for  the HP5065 and other Rb´s? My LPRO have
about 7x10^-14/mBar (hPa) so with  15-20mbar change, that can happen quite
quick, it is also in the ^-12 range.  The tempco for my LPRO is 7x10^-13/°C
and drift in the high ^-14 per day so my  GPSDO controller mostly fights the
temperature and pressure variations I  think. I like having a GPS
disciplined Rb as I haven´t had to adjust it during  the last years. Of course 
a OCXO
based GPSDO will also stay on frequency. For  me the Rb have been good when
I have tested GPS modules and GPSDO´s just out  of curiosity. In hold mode
it have been useful to get the ADEV out to say  10000 secs (low ^-13).

Lars

Från: Bob  Camp<mailto:[email protected]>
Skickat: den 14 mars 2016 02:01
Till:  Discussion of precise time and frequency
measurement<mailto:[email protected]>
Ämne: Re: [time-nuts] HP 5065A  repair

Hi

Some math:

5x10^-11 over 50C

You have  1x10^-13 / C

If you have pretty good HVAC you get 2C cycles. On a  typical home system,
you get 2X that or more.

Net is a bump at 2x10^-13  (or more).

That assumes no hysteresis. (Hint: there always is  hysteresis).

That assumes you have no rate dependent effects. (… they  almost always are
present ..).

If you are at 10X the data sheet level,  the bump is more like 2x10^-12 (or
more). Either one will likely show up on a  good test plot.

Can you take care of all this? Of course you can. Does  modeling and
correcting all this fall into the “quick and easy fix” category?  Nope, not at
all. The thread is about a request for a simple approach to an Rb  setup. That
sort of thing does not include fancy models and all sorts of  corrections.

Bob



On Mar 13, 2016, at 5:10 PM,  Poul-Henning Kamp <[email protected]>
wrote:

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In message <[email protected]>,  [email protected]
writes:

As far a tempco goes, unless your  lab swings tens of degrees will you
really see it?

  Well, I do...

My air-con is far from optimal, but it clearly  makes a very obvious
bump in my AVAR plots.


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