Am 08.06.2016 um 02:31 schrieb Mike Monett:
I was not interested in examining the frequency response, saturation
effect or core losses. These are only important after the  core goes
into saturation.

I was  only interested in the result of switching at the peak  or at
the zero  crossing. This is clearly defined at the beginning  of the
document.
...
The saturation  and  core  losses   are  outside  the  scope  of the
investigation. The  investigation was only to examine the  effect of
switching at  the  peak or at the zero  crossing.  This  was clearly
stated at the beginning of the paper.

My analysis  correctly defined an unloaded transformer  as  the only
case where  switching  at  the peak or the  zero  crossing  made any
difference. This was the goal, and it was met.

Saturation is not outside the scope. It is the very heart of the problem.
You need to build up a voltage opposite to the grid voltage to keep the current small.
That requires an inductance and that requires a core that can be magnetized.
If the core is already magnetized to the limit from a previous session, it is as good as simply not there at all. What remains is some meters of copper wire without an
appreciable L and that is not enough.

I'm haunted by that effect myself on a regular base in that I have a fat class A Krell audio amplifier and it pops the fuse of my living room once in about 5 times of
switching it on.


I also showed that very few solid state switches were available that
switched at  the peak, that most vendors simply supply  devices that
switch at  the  zero  crossing and state to get  a  model  that will
accept the  surge currents, that switching at the  peak  could cause
severe surge  currents with capacitive loads,
Nobody uses large transformers anymore, everybody has a diode bridge , capacitor
and a DC/DC behind it. Then zero voltage switching makes sense.

  and that  I  could not
find any reference that stated switching at the peak would not cause
core saturation.
I provided references that zero voltage switching leads to saturation, and so did others.

Your comments   offer   no   additional   information  regarding the
advisability of  switching  at the peak or  the  zero  crossing. The
information you  do supply is irrelevant to the problem,  and mostly
irrelevant to LTspice.
you are right. This is not a LTspice problem but your modelling problem.

> Attila Kinali
It is upon moral qualities that a society is ultimately founded.
All the  prosperity and technological sophistication in  the world
is of no use without that foundation.

You need to consider getting new sigs. The two you post  have little
or nothing  to  do  with timenuts, and I'm  sure  everyone  has them
memorized by now.


OMG , I'm not Attila, but I may need a special time nuts .sig!

regards, Gerhard

--
Es ist schon alles gesagt worden, aber noch nicht von jedem. (Valentin)

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