Hi

Actually it’s pretty simple to track down that sort of jammer ….. and yes, the 
gear to do it 
is out there in quantity. 

Bob

> On Aug 30, 2018, at 6:51 PM, Scott McGrath <scmcgr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> As Brooke notes while low frequency jammers are possible, practicality is 
> another matter,   All it takes to jam a city scale area is a box the size of 
> a pack of cigarettes.    Because the GPS signal is very, very weak.
> 
> As an intentional denial put a couple hundred on stray animals.    Now track 
> those jammers down.
> 
> I doubt if any agency owns enough DF equipment to find them all in a 
> reasonable amount of time.
> 
> Thats why we need backup systems and each backup system will have less and 
> less accuracy as it increases in robustness.   The HF systems could provide 
> adequate syncing for the Market example.
> 
> 
> 
> On Aug 30, 2018, at 6:18 PM, Poul-Henning Kamp <p...@phk.freebsd.dk> wrote:
> 
> --------
> In message <96e995c4-5ca2-af02-9738-0a6d87a9f...@pacific.net>, Brooke Clarke 
> writes:
> 
>> But it's extremely hard to make a jammer for WWVB (60 kHz) [...]
> 
> You can do it city-scale with a 18-wheeler sized loop-antenna
> and a good size diesel-generator.
> 
> However pedestrians will very likely note metalic items vibrating
> as they pass the "mystery white truck".
> 
> Sweden were much more serious about it:
> 
>   http://www.antus.org/RT02.html
> 
> Tl;drs:
> 
> They erected 9 200m tall Loran-C class antennas each driven by
> a Loran-C transmitter with an advanced degree which could jam
> Loran-C or Chayka.
> 
> They even mounted decoy parabolas on the towers them to hide their
> true purpose.
> 
> The fact that all the transmitters were on the east coast does drop
> a hint that swedens much touted neutrality had a bit of a slant.
> 
> -- 
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