Hi

….. and here I was wondering if it had ever gone out :) Glad it made it. 

No, I did not run any single frequency units beside it. It is much better than 
any similar plot
I’ve done in the past on an L1 only part. 

Indeed, as long as you just look at the first ~ 100 seconds, the “reference 
standard” is less of an issue. 
A fairly typical OCXO will hang in there at 2 ppt or so out to a couple hundred 
seconds. 
You can get a very good idea of what’s what simply by going out that far. 
Indeed you might spend
some “quality time” finding a working example of something like a MT-260. 
That’s part of the fun ….
Some of the better parts will be 5 MHz units. A HP 5335 can come in handy to 
turn 5 MHz into
10 MHz ….. there are a lot of ways to get that done. 

Yes LH and a TAPPR TICC would also help in the process …. still need those 25 
orders :) 

Bob

> On Mar 18, 2019, at 3:29 PM, Dan Kemppainen <d...@irtelemetrics.com> wrote:
> 
> Bob,
> 
> I recalled the plot you posted a few days ago. Nice plot on the F9P, BTW. 
> Thanks for posting that.
> 
> I don't supposed you happened to be recording a similar plot with a L1 only 
> Ublox part at the same time by chance, did you? I think it would be 
> interesting to compare a 6T or M8 part to the F9P. (I lack a standard good 
> enough to compare them to...)
> 
> Thanks!
> Dan
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 3/18/2019 1:00 PM, time-nuts-requ...@lists.febo.com wrote:
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2019 12:26:55 -0400
>> From: Bob kb8tq<kb...@n1k.org>
>> To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
>>      <time-nuts@lists.febo.com>
>> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Frequency Ensemble
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>> Hi
>> There are a variety of GPS devices that put out a PPS. uBlox makes some, 
>> there
>> are a number of other companies that do so. The PPS comes out modulo the 
>> local
>> timebase. On a precision part, there is a ?sawtooth correction? message that 
>> also
>> comes out to further quantify the best guess time of that pulse.
>> Noise wise, even with correction you are lucky to get a one second ADEV in 
>> the
>> 1 to 2 ppb range with a typical L1 receiver. With a L1 / L2 device like the 
>> F9P,
>> you might do a bit better than that.
>> The ADEV of your other sources at short tau will be much better than the GPS 
>> PPS
>> noise. As you average out over long periods, the GPS will win the race.
>> Bob
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