Hi

Based on several replacements on a “high performance” 5071 …. 6 to 7 years of 
24/7/365 seems to
be about the point things start to get flakey. Maybe not dead, but crazy enough 
that it lets you know 
it needs a new tube ( = ADEV is not even close to what it should be ..).

Cost several years back for the swap out was right at $40K. The process 
included hazmat shipping 
silly nonsense. That part delayed the process by almost 2 months. 

Bob

> On Jun 30, 2019, at 4:55 PM, Tom Van Baak <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> I'm pretty sure you can still buy a new Cs tube for a hp 5071A. But the price 
> is several tens of thousands. I've not found anyone selling replacement tubes 
> for all the older Cs standards. Treat it like a ballpoint pen. It will end 
> some day and you can't refill it. Worse, you can't really tell how much "ink" 
> is left in the tube. Still, it's easy to swap in a new or used tube if you 
> have it.
> 
> On eBay stay away from Cs standards with the "high performance" option. Yes, 
> these tubes give you ~2x better stability -- but at the cost of ~4x the beam 
> current and thus maybe a quarter of the lifetime. I haven't seen any recent 
> data but you can roughly expect a high-performance tube to last 7 to 10 years 
> if used full-time and if there are no other defects. A standard tube might 
> last 20 to 25 years if used full-time and there are no other defects.
> 
> So it's not as bad as you think. And I would never use the word 
> "disappointing". Come on, decades of physics research, not to mention a few 
> Nobel prizes, turned a room-sized atomic physics laboratory into a compact 
> 19" unit that fits on your desk. And its portable.
> 
> The more you study the history of timekeeping and the more you learn about 
> how cesium standards work the more you will be absolutely amazed at what it 
> is that you own. Treat it with great awe and respect. Like others have said, 
> you don't have to run it 24x7 and if its working well today, it could easily 
> outlast you. Now that's the disappointing part...
> 
> /tvb
> 
> 
> On 6/29/2019 7:46 AM, Taka Kamiya via time-nuts wrote:
>> I paid very little to purchase, so it's not a big deal from financial stand 
>> point, but it's disappointing that once it's done, it's done.
>> By recommendation, I am keeping it mostly off and turn it on few days 
>> earlier of anticipated use, mostly to calibrate/verify something else.  My 
>> usual reference is GPSDO and Rubidium which are redundant and always on.
>> 
>> ---------------------------------------
>> (Mr.) Taka Kamiya
>> I'm stuck in a wormhole....  Hello, worms!
>> 
>>     On Friday, June 28, 2019, 5:00:25 PM EDT, Taka Kamiya via time-nuts 
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>    I have a Datum FTS 4040A.  I believe the tube is original but it is still 
>> locking and staying in lock just fine.  I don't know for how long.  In an 
>> event where tube goes soft/dead, replacing it with factory new replacement 
>> part is out of question for cost.  Are there any refurbished tubes available 
>> from anyone?
>> 
>> ---------------------------------------
>> (Mr.) Taka Kamiya
>> I'm stuck in a wormhole....  Hello, worms!
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