Hi Mark,

On 2020-01-21 19:41, Mark Haun wrote:
> Hi Attila,
>
> On Tue, 21 Jan 2020 15:08:16 +0100
> Attila Kinali <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Tue, 21 Jan 2020 01:15:45 +0100
>> Attila Kinali <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> You don't need a high performance ADC for the reference as you are
>>> dealing with a narrow band signal of known frequency. Even a 10bit
>>> or 8bit ADC would be good enough. You can even go and sample at
>>> half frequency and save both money and power.   
>> I just spend a few minutes looking at ADCs and found the LTC2256-12
>> and its faster sister LTC2257-12. They go for ~15USD at quantity 1.
>> Both have 170fs RMS apperture jitter and do 25Msps and 40Msps
>> respectively. 3dB BW is 800MHz, so more then good enough to even use
>> the 100MHz output of an hydrogen maser, if you want a really good
>> reference ;-)
>>
>> Power consumption at max sample rate are 34mW and 47mW respectively.
>> That's slightly more than a PLL would use (~20mW, plus maybe another
>> 5mW to 10mW for the opamps in the loopfilter). Power consumption goes
>> down a bit with decreasing sample rate, but not as much as one would
>> hope for.
> I hope you will indulge one more newbie question on the analog PLL
> option... as I have approximately zero experience designing them.
>
> What are the adverse consequences of using large divisors in the loop,
> as would be required for my odd OCXO frequency?  E.g. on paper, it would
> seem that I could use 80 MHz / 625 = 16.384 MHz / 128 = 128 kHz PFD
> frequency.  How would this differ from a more "normal" ref clock
> frequency of 10 or 16 MHz with smaller divisors?

>From my experience, such factors and rate of phase comparator is
relatively easy to work with and get to work reasonably well for most
purposes. I recommend you to use a PI-loop.

For a step-up you want to keep the PLL bandwidth fairly large, and that
helps making it easy.

I've been tempted to do a bunch of such loops in various kinds of
equipment to solve issues. I should to more of them. One should have a
nice little lock-up board to just apply.

Cheers,
Magnus



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