Hi

The amplifier board was sitting in mid air with no shielding. Stray pickup from 
who 
knows where *is* a possibility. 

Bob

> On Mar 25, 2020, at 6:32 PM, John Miles <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
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>> Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 9:46 AM
>> To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement'
>> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Noise Floor
>> 
>> Phase noise looks pretty good. ADEV has some weird "stuff" going on. Time
>> to start tearing the board apart to see what's wrong with it?
>> Maybe there's some noise in those resistors .... let's go !!!!
>> 
> 
> Resistor noise won't normally show up on plots at this level, but it does 
> look like there is some kind of periodic disturbance near 1 Hz.  Could be a 
> thermal artifact due to convection currents on the board, or possibly a case 
> where large undamped LC components have been used in a power supply filter or 
> bias network.  
> 
> I'd be more likely to suspect crosstalk from a nearby 5 MHz source that isn't 
> quite on the same frequency, which should be easy enough to rule out.  Poor 
> cable shield integrity can also encourage this type of artifact to appear, 
> even in the absence of an obvious interferer.
> 
> On the phase noise plot, the 53100A thinks it's an instrument spur and is 
> removing it.  It's very unlikely to be one, but this process will never be 
> 100% reliable, especially in short-duration measurements.  You can see a 
> suspiciously-flat segment centered at about 0.9 Hz, which often indicates 
> that a spur is being suppressed automatically.  The stability data doesn't 
> undergo any automatic spur detection or removal, so when you see ripple in 
> the ADEV plot that doesn't correspond to an obvious spur on the PN plot, it's 
> a good idea to either let the measurement run longer or set the 'Spur min 
> offset' value to 10 Hz or so.  
> 
> -- john
> 
> 
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