It seems to me that now since the register so much longer, yet the D/A is the 
same, updates to the D/A will take longer and therefore creating more close in 
spurs. That 20logN does suck, but is real. I may suggest running the output of 
the DDS through a 5 MHz crystal, or better yet a very narrow crystal filter. 73 
- Mike 

Mike B. Feher, N4FS
89 Arnold Blvd.
Howell NJ 07731
848-245-9115

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From: time-nuts <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Bob kb8tq
Sent: Wednesday, October 7, 2020 7:34 PM
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Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Aging 5065A ?

Hi

Well….. the existing synth in the 5065 is no champion spur wise. Coming up with 
a DDS that is “as good as” is not all that crazy.

The 5 MHz reference is multiplied to 6.x GHz and then mixed with the synth. The 
close in phase noise of the multiplied signal is mixed with the synth. The 
output is the sum of the two.
Going from 5 MHz to 6.x GHz gets you 20 log (N)  … a bit over 60 db added phase 
noise.

The synth (at 100 ti 300 Hz offset) needs to be 60 db worse than the noise on 
the 5 MHz before it even gets in the game. That’s not a really tough spec to 
meet.

Bob
w the instructions there.


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