Hi

I would *think* that the phase noise out of the down converter channel would be 
the DUT + LO. If indeed you
have DUT A + LO B and DUT C + LO D, you then have a lot of A + B vs C + D stuff 
to sort out ….

Bob

> On Oct 17, 2020, at 2:48 PM, John Ackermann N8UR <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> FWIW, I have done PN measurements at 144 MHz with the TimePod and a 
> Frankenstein's laboratory lashup of 80 MHz ULN, HP doubler to 160 MHz, HP 
> mixer, and several amp and filter blocks.  As far as I can tell, it worked 
> pretty well; at least, I could discern the PN difference among several 
> sources, some of them quite good.
> 
> Not sure why you are doing two oscillators/mixers, though.  I used a 5 or 10 
> MHz reference directly into the TimePod, and the DUT fed through the mixer.  
> No need to increase the frequency of the reference to match the DUT.  But if 
> you do want to mix both the REF and DUT channels, wouldn't it be better to 
> use a single source to drive both mixers?
> 
> John
> ----
> 
> On 10/17/20 8:59 AM, Gerhard Hoffmann wrote:
>> I'm trying to make a quick frequency extender for a timepod.
>> MCL PSC2-1 power divider, 2* SRA-1  7 dBm ring mixer, 2 DIL 80 
>> MHz-oscillators
>> The oscillators can drive the ring mixers with just a coupling capacitor and 
>> 50 Ohm
>> load limiting resistor. It is still a square wave at the LO port, but the 
>> diodes in the mixer
>> would square it up on their own.
>> When there is no 5V-power, the oscillators are off and the LO inputs are 
>> connected
>> to SMA connectors via the normally closed contacts of two reed relays.
>> Then the whole thing is passive and needs two external synthesizers.
>> Before I continue with the material I had in the junkbox, a quick question 
>> to those
>> of you who have done that already:
>> Are 7 dBm mixers like SRA-1 good enough or is 17 dBm an advantage worth the
>> driver amplifiers? The usual signal generators max out at 13 dBm.
>> I have 2 17 dBm SRA1-WH, but it would require slaughtering something 
>> unimportant.
>> How close must the oscillators be in frequency?
>> Have a nice weekend,
>> Gerhard, DK4XP
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