actually you could transmit and receive on the same frequency if you take care that they have different polarization. A small transmit loop around -- vertical axis -- the building and very low power  and receive the wwvb normally with the ferrite roads  with horizontal axis, the transmission outside of the loop is negligible, I am running such a system for my old clocks, wwvb receiver antenna properly oriented in the attic, amplifier downstairs, the loop cca 1/2' from the ground an one LM386 "drives" the loop with low power, just you have to turn you clock's ferrite - antenna vertically.
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On 12/26/2020 5:23 PM, Tom Van Baak wrote:
> Transmitting on the same frequency you are receiving on seems like asking for  troubles.

Same frequency, but you wouldn't do both at the same time. See, you can't transmit AM WWVB until you first know what time it is. To get the time you enable the ES100 and listen to BPSK WWVB. So the ES100 receiver and Arduino transmitter are not active as the same time. One example might be to enable the ES100 for 3 minutes each hour and run the Arduino for the balance.

> How far apart would the antennas have to be?

Use the standard dual right angle ES100 antenna setup to receive BPSK WWVB. For transmit, you likely don't need, and legally don't want, an antenna. The Arduino is likely within a few feet of the 24h RC clock that you're trying to set. If it doesn't work first time, dangle a jumper off the GPIO pin.

/tvb


On 12/26/2020 1:59 PM, Hal Murray wrote:
[email protected] said:
Use a ES100 board [2] to receive the real BPSK WWVB and then generate a  fake AM WWVB signal for the 24h clock to receive. That way you get the  enhanced
reception of the new format and the wide clock selection of the
Transmitting on the same frequency you are receiving on seems like asking for
troubles.

How far apart would the antennas have to be?  How would you calculate that
distance?  Or what is the right question?




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