at the time I grew up in Eastern Europe -- "communist time" -- they kept he clocks using the line frequency as reference -- by counting the periods during the day and week and for longer time for equal time interval the "provided" equal number of line frequency periods, as longer the time interval was as more precise was the time.  That way the clocks were relative accurate. They could do it since everything was "central governed".

On 2/12/2021 9:24 AM, Lux, Jim wrote:
On 2/12/21 8:23 AM, Thomas D. Erb wrote:
"I would think they try to hold it over 1 day, so that mains driven

clocks don't run slow or fast.? That being said, I wonder how many

clocks are still being built using a synchronous motor drive? Given that

all the clocks on appliances in my kitchen have drifted apart, I'll bet

they use their internal microcontroller crystal as a reference."

Actually I think all of my kitchen appliances use line frequency for time reference - it's so easy to count.


Maybe.. you've got to condition the AC from the secondary side of the transformer and use a pin to bring it in on, which requires at least 2 or 3 passive components, and you already have a crystal for the microcontroller (thinking here of oven timers and the like, which have a numeric display).  These applications are super price sensitive, and those 2 or 3 components cost money, in components, in board space, and in assembly costs. Pennies to be sure, but...

And the fact that my appliances drift on the order of a minute in a month, differently. So maybe some count cycles and some have a rock.



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