Robert,

> Is it dead because of Week-Roll over limits or something else?

It is a Week Roll-Over limit. In a working receiver, the time should be correct 
with  3-D fix (min) but the date will be wrong. Some VP and UT+ Oncore 
receivers may have failed but we have found that to be very rare.

Art

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-----Original Message-----
From: Robert DiRosario <[email protected]> 
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 1:49 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [time-nuts] Re: Z3801A Receiver Replacement

Does this effect All Z3801As?
I have one of these:
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I picked up a power supply and antenna for it but  haven't done anything with 
it yet.

 > I have a HP Z3801A with a dead GPS receiver.
Is it dead because of Week-Roll over limits or something else?

Robert


On 06/21/2021 11:54 PM, Art Sepin wrote:
> Hi Fred,
>
> I apologize if the following smells overtly commercial; it's only intended to 
> answer your questions and explain where we are in the process of producing 
> GPS replacement products for legacy timing instruments.
>
> The 6 and 8 channel Motorola VP and 8 channel UT+ will not work as 
> replacements. Those products have also reached their 1024 Week-Roll Over 
> limits. The HP Z3801A and Z3805A products only respond to 6 channel commands 
> and produce 6 channel reply messages.
>
> We have developed single-board clones for the Motorola VP and UT+ products, 
> as drop-in replacements, that are lower in cost than Synergy's 2-board 
> Adaptor Board products (Shooting for dropping to less than $190 if component 
> prices don't go even higher!). The SSR-VP can plug into the HP Z3801A and 
> Z3805A products.
>
> A different part number SSR-VP designed to drop into HP 58503A and an 
> SSR-UT+, designed to drop into HP 58503B products, have also been completed 
> but firmware for those have yet to be tested in actual instruments. With the 
> proper firmware loads, the SSR Drop-In products should be candidates for 
> upgrading many other legacy timing instruments.
>
> We had planned for the single board "Drop-In" products to be available near 
> the end of 2020 but COVID-19 changed things for us. We are now planning a 
> small production run to satisfy folks that have already been in touch with us 
> but we need to complete our boot-loader for firmware updates first. With 
> current work load, I'd estimate 90 - 120 days for HP Z3801A and Z3805A 
> replacements. If you are interested we can put you on our list.
>
> Apologies for the quasi-commercial intrusion!
>
> Art
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Frederick Bray <[email protected]>
> Sent: Monday, June 21, 2021 7:21 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [time-nuts] Z3801A Receiver Replacement
>
> I have a HP Z3801A with a dead GPS receiver.  I understand that it is 
> possible to drop in an Oncore VP 8 channel receiver as a replacement -- not 
> withstanding the fact that the Z3801A will only see six channels.
>
> I see that Motorola R5122U1154 8 channel receivers are available.  Does 
> anyone know whether this will function in the Z3801A?  I'd like to get it 
> working again.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Fred Bray, KE6CD
>
>
>
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