Did you say there's a 1 mH choke at the LDO input? I gather that overall, you're regulating 5 V in to 3.3 V out, running the IC that takes a few mA DC, and loading the CMOS output with 50 ohms scope input (or a 50 ohm terminator on a scope or probe setup). I'd recommend the following changes.

1. Get rid of the choke, or at least replace it with a much smaller one that will be more effective - say no more than 100 uH. Especially in surface mount, it will be much smaller too.

2. Put big bypass caps at the input and output of the LDO. Solid Ta caps are best for this, like in the tens to a hundred uF, readily available in surface mount. If you keep a choke at the input, bypass the 5 V input end also. Especially for experimenting, it's a good idea to add reverse protection in case you screw up the hookup. For low voltage stuff, use a shunt diode from the input supply to ground, big enough to dump the supply if backwards.

3. Don't bother with DMMs and scope-probing the various supplies and such, except for troubleshooting. Once you confirm proper operation, disconnect all the probes and grounds - otherwise, they'll just form all sorts unnecessary ground loops, and confuse things. They don't have good enough CMRR to show what's really going anyway.

4. Run the I/O signals in coax. Ultimately, the actual application may need the full output signal, but for experimenting, it's best to pad the output into coax to get it to the scope or SA, or whatever.

A simple method is to AC-couple it with a good RF cap, say in the 10 nF range (for 26 MHz), then a series resistor into the coax, and a shunt resistor there, to get it in the 50 ohm Rs range - it doesn't have to be perfectly matched. The series resistor should be as big as possible, to minimize loading on the IC output, but small enough to get sufficient signal for measurements. Again, in an actual possible application, the full signal may be needed, but the load on the output would only be the input of a buffer amp or logic, that's nearby, so not needing to take a long trip. This setup should provide a more realistic view of how the IC behaves.

For the control voltage, there would not be RF issues, but some bypassing at the IC is good, just to clean up local RF, but not so much that it affects loop response if you're PLL-ing it, for instance. There can be DC ground loop issues though. Looking at it as a black box, you'll have the power supply common, the output common, and the control signal common, all capable of carrying some of the supply return current, depending on how things get hooked up. In a real application, these paths would be minimized and dealt with, but for experimenting, you have to keep it in mind and be sure you know and properly control the tuning voltage, referenced to the local common at the IC. It's also a good idea (for experimenting) to clamp the tune voltage within its normal range, just in case. This is not likely needed in a real application.

This should provide a fairly clean setup. If there are still annoying common-mode issues with the measurements, you can add CM chokes as needed, around all of the lines together, going to the black box.

Ed
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