On 7/12/22 8:53 AM, Erik Kaashoek via time-nuts wrote:
I'm struggling with the noise floor.
First tests where done with a 5nV/sqrt(Hz) opamp. Noise floor with shorted mixer output at 10kHz was -140dBc/Hz. Then I tried with 1nV/sqrt(Hz) opamp, but that made no difference, noise floor at 10kHz was still -140dBc/Hz The setup was simplified to this schematic: http://athome.kaashoek.com/time-nuts/PNA/SSPNA.JPG

What's the noise contribution of the resistors? V = sqrt(4*k*T*R*B)

51 ohms  is sqrt (4 * 1.38E-23 * 300 * 51) = 0.9 nV/sqrt(Hz)  100 ohms is ~1.4 nV/sqrt(Hz)

What kind of op amp? what's the current noise vs the voltage noise?  - you might low voltage noise, but high current noise, and that current noise across the input impedance can turn into surprisingly high voltage noise at the output.


The REF_buffer creates a virtual ground, the Audio_LNA amplifies into the differential audio output .
Why did the lower noise opamp not make a difference?
Also the setup is acting like a nice microphone. Tapping the housing is clearly audible. Which component may be causing the microphony?

My guess would be a parasitic capacitance between circuit and housing. changing the distance changes the C.



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