On Mon, 4 Dec 2006, Claypole, David wrote:

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> Thanks Louis
>
> I am using a windows client but only have uk.pool.ntp.org as a source, I
> then sync my domain with this client.
>
> If I use ( net time /setsntp:"0.uk.pool.ntp.org 1.uk.pool.ntp.org
> 2.uk.pool.ntp.org" ) does that mean it will check 3 servers before
> adjusting ? I presume the 3 servers would have to be with a certain
> threshold of each other before the Server changed its time. So if one
> was 8 hours out then it wouldn't happen.
>
I have several ntpd server so let me try something to find out the answer 
to your question :

C:\Documents and Settings\HP_Administrator>net stop w32time

C:\Documents and Settings\HP_Administrator>net time 
/setsntp:"192.168.11.11 192.168.11.9 192.168.11.8"

C:\Documents and Settings\HP_Administrator>net start w32time

Well, I think you might be safe with this setting because I now see the 
Windows XP machine connecting to all 3 ntpd servers everytime it polls for 
time. To be 100% sure, we would have to know what w32time does when one of 
the server has a huge 8 hours offset... It should obviously react 
properly. Let's just hope w32time doesn't do an average of the 3 results 
it gets... ;-)))

Anyway you seems to be much safer with /setsntp:"0.uk.pool.ntp.org 
1.uk.pool.ntp.org 2.uk.pool.ntp.org" so I would just leave it like 
that for now. If w32time is smart enough to handle bad servers, you 
should be fine.

See Microsoft documentation at:
http://technet2.microsoft.com/WindowsServer/en/library/71e76587-28f4-4272-a3d7-7f44ca50c0181033.mspx?mfr=true

Don't forget to stop/start w32time although, I beleive it is needed for 
the new sntp configuration to be taken into account.

> I quess the server I checked on Saturday @ 9:30 was out.
>
> Thanks
> David Claypole
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: 04 December 2006 13:54
> To: Claypole, David
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [time] 8 hour jump in time
>
> On Mon, 4 Dec 2006, Claypole, David wrote:
>
>> THIS MESSAGE IS SUBJECT TO THE CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE AT THE END OF
>> THIS COMMUNICATION
>>
>>
>> Have been using the uk.pool.ntp.org service for some time now without
>> any issues and its been great. On saturday  at 09:30 our server sync'd
>
>> and jumped by 8 hours causing us a few issues. Just windering if
>> anyone else had issues and if there is anything i can do to ensure it
>> doesnt happen again.
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> David Claypole
>>
>>
>
> Hi David,
>
> Are running ntpd ? If not I would recommend it.
>
> Basically, if you aren't running ntpd, you must be using some kind of
> sntp client ( e.g. ntpdate on linux, w32time on windows).
>
> The sntp clients ( s is for simple) take their time from the first
> available server as far as I can tell. This raise the risk of what
> happend to you happening again. Any given server may go wrong (any clock
> device also), not only servers from the pool.
>
> When you run ntpd you usually specify 3 or more time source servers to
> connect to :
>
> 0.uk.pool.ntp.org
> 1.uk.pool.ntp.org
> 2.uk.pool.ntp.org
>
> ntpd is smart enough to detect if one of the 3 servers go wrong and ntpd
> will continue to provide you with reliable time unless all servers go
> wrong.
>
> If you do not run ntpd, consider setting at least 1 ntpd server for your
> network and have your local machines read time from your own ntpd
> server.
> It is OK to use sntp client on your internal network because you can now
> trust your own ntpd server to give the right time.
>
> If you are already running ntpd with multiple servers as source of time,
> then something more serious did occur beacuse all the time source
> servers would have to fail in order for an 8 hour glitch to occur.
>
> Louis
>
>
>
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