On Sunday 08 April 2007 14:09, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Sun, 8 Apr 2007, Hans wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Last week I switched to another ADSL-provider (cheaper, faster,
> > better(?)). With the new connection I got another modem. The modem (ST
> > WL780i) allows only 1024 concurrent connections. NTP-pool delivers me
> > much more.
>
> Are you sure you are reaching the limit ??

I did that once, I try to prevent running into it again, it jeopardises my 
internet connection completely.

>
> I would find 1024 quite low anyway, linux conntracking supports 65536 at
> least.

I agree completely, the modem design is not mine.

>
> Anyway I never get more than 512 conntrack entries for UDP 123. (NTP)
>
> You have to remember UDP is connection less anyway.

I'm not a network guru but UDP does create sockets on which a sort of 
connection can be established. E.g.  reply's on SIP requests do get back to 
the correct server without setting NAT, I found out yesterday. 

This is (part of) what the modem says:

{Administrator}=>:connection list
ID   proto state       substate    flags       timeout
--   ----- -----       --------    -----       -------
381  tcp   ACTIVE      [TCPS_ESTABLISHED-TCPS_ESTABLISHED] [.........] 15' 7"
  INIT: 762   10.  0.  0. 12:51418  10.  0.  0.138:   23 [....] LocalNetwork    
216 tcp     0
  RESP: 763   10.  0.  0.138:   23  10.  0.  0. 12:51418 [R...]   loop    178 
tcp     0
390  udp   ACTIVE      0           [.........] 44"
  INIT: 780   10.  0.  0.199: 2152 193. 93. 46. 46:16569 [....] LocalNetwork  
37337 udp     0
  RESP: 781  193. 93. 46. 46:16569  89.220. 77.156:55354 [R...] Internet  
72977 udp     0
605  tcp   ACTIVE      [TCPS_ESTABLISHED-TCPS_ESTABLISHED] [.........] 15' 7"
  INIT: 1210  10.  0.  0.200: 1049 207. 46.109. 50: 1863 [....] LocalNetwork    
381 tcp     0
  RESP: 1211 207. 46.109. 50: 1863  89.220. 77.156:55045 [R...] Internet    
374 tcp     0
664  udp   ACTIVE      0           [.........] 43"
  INIT: 1328  66. 99. 85.250:  385  89.220. 77.156:  123 [....] Internet    
363 udp     0
  RESP: 1329  10.  0.  0. 12:  123  66. 99. 85.250:  385 [R...] LocalNetwork    
147 udp     0
562  udp   ACTIVE      0           [.........] 43"
  INIT: 1124  60.231.113.109:  123  89.220. 77.156:  123 [....] Internet    
364 udp     0
  RESP: 1125  10.  0.  0. 12:  123  60.231.113.109:  123 [R...] LocalNetwork    
148 udp     0
525  udp   ACTIVE      0           [.........] 43"
  INIT: 1050  10.  0.  0.199:55026 193. 93. 46. 46:55025 [....] LocalNetwork   
1421 udp     0
  RESP: 1051 193. 93. 46. 46:55025  89.220. 77.156:55367 [R...] Internet      
0 udp     0
495  udp   ACTIVE      0           [.........] 43"
  INIT: 990  138.232. 65.157:37151  89.220. 77.156:  123 [....] Internet     
87 udp     0
  RESP: 991   10.  0.  0. 12:  123 138.232. 65.157:37151 [R...] LocalNetwork    
 
84 udp     0
936  udp   ACTIVE      0           [.........] 43"
  INIT: 1872 131.109.225. 34:  277  89.220. 77.156:  123 [....] Internet    
364 udp     0
  RESP: 1873  10.  0.  0. 12:  123 131.109.225. 34:  277 [R...] LocalNetwork    
148 udp     0
794  udp   ACTIVE      0           [.........] 43"
  INIT: 1588  81.175. 75.  1:63100  89.220. 77.156:  123 [....] Internet    
364 udp     0
  RESP: 1589  10.  0.  0. 12:  123  81.175. 75.  1:63100 [R...] LocalNetwork    
148 udp     0
32   udp   ACTIVE      0           [.........] 43"
  INIT: 64    81.  0.176.226:  123  89.220. 77.156:  123 [....] Internet    
576 udp     0
  RESP: 65    10.  0.  0. 12:  123  81.  0.176.226:  123 [R...] LocalNetwork    
576 udp     0
473  tcp   ACTIVE      [TCPS_ESTABLISHED-TCPS_ESTABLISHED] [.........] 15' 6"
  INIT: 946   10.  0.  0.200: 1203  75. 57.135. 87: 8968 [....] LocalNetwork   
2192 tcp     0
  RESP: 947   75. 57.135. 87: 8968  89.220. 77.156:56019 [R...] Internet   
2246 tcp     0
317  tcp   ACTIVE      [TCPS_ESTABLISHED-TCPS_ESTABLISHED] [.........] 15' 5"
  INIT: 634   10.  0.  0.200: 1179  69.145.229. 13:41293 [....] LocalNetwork   
2136 tcp     0
  RESP: 635   69.145.229. 13:41293  89.220. 77.156:55992 [R...] Internet   
2184 tcp     0
864  tcp   ACTIVE      [TCPS_ESTABLISHED-TCPS_ESTABLISHED] [.........] 15' 6"
  INIT: 1728  10.  0.  0.200: 1439 207. 46. 27. 48: 1863 [....] LocalNetwork    
 
24 tcp     0
  RESP: 1729 207. 46. 27. 48: 1863  89.220. 77.156:56704 [R...] Internet     
23 tcp     0
502  udp   ACTIVE      0           [.........] 42"
  INIT: 1004  24.150. 54.223:63729  89.220. 77.156:  123 [....] Internet    
363 udp     0
  RESP: 1005  10.  0.  0. 12:  123  24.150. 54.223:63729 [R...] LocalNetwork    
147 udp     0
234  udp   ACTIVE      0           [.........] 42"
  INIT: 468   67.155. 45. 66:48271  89.220. 77.156:  123 [....] Internet    
364 udp     0
  RESP: 469   10.  0.  0. 12:  123  67.155. 45. 66:48271 [R...] LocalNetwork    
147 udp     0
778  tcp   ACTIVE      [TCPS_ESTABLISHED-TCPS_ESTABLISHED] [.........] 15' 5"
>
> So it boils down to : Are you sure you are experiencing a problem because
> of that 1024 limit ???

More modem output:

{Administrator}=>connection stats
Connection statistics:
-------------------------------------------
Maximum number of connections             : 1024
Maximum number of halfopen connections    : 1024
-------------------------------------------
Number of active connections              : 287
Number of halfopen connections            : 9
Number of expected connections            : 0
Number of loose connections               : 0
Number of closing connections             : 0
Number of idle connections                : 99
Number of mcast connections               : 0
-------------------------------------------
Number of TCP connections                 : 46
Number of UDP connections                 : 241
Number of ICMP connections                : 0
Number of non TCP/UDP/ICMP connections    : 0


Best regards,

Hans 
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