[quote="Guest"]Seems to be a very good initiative. It would be great to implement something like this on the official open erp website. [/quote]
YES please. I think community need it!!! [quote="Guest"] I have several concerns to be solved with such videos, before implementing an official system: 1. Maintenance is quite complex. In a classic documentation, you just have to change a few lines when the software change after a new version, but here, you have to redo all the videos [/quote] We thought about this. Our solution is that a course owner (the creator) should mantein their courses. If courses are not for free, the owner is going to have a benefit for it, so, he/she should mantein the course. If the creator is not interested on it, maybe another commiter could mantein it so the creator would loose part of the benefits from the course. If course is for free, I think no one is obligated to give support or upload a new Version. It's exactly the same with software but in this case is Open Knowledge... [quote="Guest"] 2. We should avoid doing two times the same information, with the books and the videos. [/quote] I think both methods are valid and complementary. It's not making things two times but in two different complementary ways. There is some things that is not possible to explain in a video. [quote="Guest"] 3. Translations should be managed efficiently. [/quote="Guest"] Completly agreed. But it is again the same. If a course can be translated to a different languaje, someone from that country could make the translation. This person should obtain also a benefit is a not for free course... So the translation and benefit management should be controled for a quality team, but not made for them. [quote="Guest"] 4. What about third party's websites ? [/quote="Guest"] Perfect... [quote="Guest"] Any suggestion are welcome to find a solution to these issues. I start with a few thought: For 1: * We should have a system of tag, where we tag on which version the video apply (and it can works for several version, if the feature did not changed too much) * We can manage maintenance if you succeed to create incentives for contributor that do videos. They are several way to create incentive: publicity, money, ... [/quote="Guest"] As I said, I think the manteiner shoul be the creator. It is much easier to control your own courses than controlling other people made courses. [quote="Guest"] For 2: * I think books and videos must be linked together. When reading the books, we should be able to zoom to a video, or the text to explain a video should be the book (not another text). This will simplify maintenance and increase collaboration. We need a strong integration between both systems. [/quote="Guest"] YESSSS... thats exactly. [quote="Guest"] * Same for comments about the user, do they have to be in the book or in the videos. [/quote="Guest"] Comments should be about course. Independent of video or book. People should evaluate course quality and teacher quality. A new idea... could be, that course creator should offer a personal support to their learners. And he could explain the kind of services he wants to offer to the learners. Support time table, price, conditions, chat, video conference... etc, etc.. That could be totally managed for the teacher. Could be a direct contract between learner and teacher. This can be very helpfull for learners benefying teachers. It's only one new idea. [quote="Guest"] * If we merge books and videos, we also have to do two table of contents: one for the chapters, one for the videos. [/quote="Guest"] Is it really necesary??? [quote="Guest"] For 3: * No idea, we have to check if there is an easy way to change comments in a flash video, from scripts. [quote="Guest"] No in a flash video, but it's really easy changing comments or even entire frames on Wink source video. Then you generate the .swf again, and upload. [quote="Guest"] For 4: * If we implement a system, what about third party's websites, like aulaERP ? I think they should have a way to be integrated to the official system too. What we did with openerp.tv is a good example, you upload your videos on blip.tv, and they appear on openerp.tv, after validation. But this should be improve and generalized. [/quote="Guest"] It's perfect. The elearning webs could be certified by openerp, giving learners the opportunity to learn in their own languages, without having to move. It will be great. [quote="Guest"] These issues have to be solved, mainly because it's much more complex to maintain a good documentation than to write it for the first time. (motivation of the authors decrease from months to months) [/quote="Guest"] I think, a really good teacher is always motivated with their learners. If people can monetize their job obtaining a benefit, this way could even be some people way of life, and this is not a joke. Imaging someone could make a good course and the price to do it is 500â¬. On AulaERP, the %60 paid from people who wants to learn the course is for the creator. One little part to mantain the web, another to quality team, another to managing paids from learners to teachers and another for marketing if necesary. So imaging 10 people, only 10 people in a month pay to make the course. That is 5000⬠and %60 from 5000⬠is 3000â¬. Someone could earn 3000⬠for making the course and then could offer chat or phone support for a course increasing or not the price, depending on himself. So he could earn more money if he want... That could be a good way to work for people who don't want to have a closed time table, students, mothers, car tired people, people who need an extra money to pay the rent of the house and wants to work on saturdays... I don't know.... [Wink] [quote="Guest"] Thanks, -- Fabien Pinckaers _______________________________________________ Tinyerp-users mailing list http://tiny.be/mailman/listinfo/tinyerp-users[/quote] [/quote="Guest"] ------------------------ Manuales, Videotutoriales de OpenERP en http://www.openerpsite.com http://www.aulaerp.com -------------------- m2f -------------------- -- http://www.openobject.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=34203#34203 -------------------- m2f --------------------
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