> what i mean with "non-commercial" (probably it's not the best term) is to 
> focus the development on what end-users and clients really need instead of 
> what is needed by the openerp release plan. 


We on Netquatro from venezuela are TOTALLY agree with the main concept of your 
post, this kind of meeteng should cumply IMHO with very good prepared 
schedule.....

We can participate, and we have A LOT of features thought in a generic way to 
improve, but,we are a little worry about some things.

-- RML reports MUST NOT be supresed, we really think after learn about this 
functions that is more powerfull than Jasper, or even OpenOffice, we forgot 
openoffice, and we modify an invoice in 2 or 3 hours, BUT IT SHOULD BE 
IMPLEMENTED COMPLETE not PARTIAL, this is the problem, with a little invesment 
of time an resources from all we can develop a web editor that change the tags 
on RML by web (something like Workflow or view editor, we use this toolls a lot 
to show concepts and several behaviour) IOH try to implement several "official 
options" is a waste of time we need have ONE but EXTRAORDINARY report tool 
written on python ;-), we in Netquatro was born with CRYSTAL and other grafical 
report tools and really none is comparable with the power of REPORTLAB + PYTHON 
+ OPENERP COMBINED but we need to make this relation very very strong, but by 
the way this is our opinion.

-- From the accounting point of view, we dedicate several hours in our very 
little quantitiy of implementation and we automate almost everything, with 
OPENERP you need only reports to audit, and the result is in very little 
changes on accounting, but this work can not be done by only a programmer, you 
need people that understand both words ACCOUNTANT AND PROGRAMIG, with this kind 
of people you can make that only the company intend to use them funtional parts 
not the accounting (only for auditing), we have today a customer that have 
expend a lot of time in planify all the accounting process, right now the 
accounting team only AUDIT not POST lines, this is dificult and a little 
abstract but now we have a company with this behaviour, and they even don't 
have technical people inside them team.

We think that we need to have a very powerfull tool to post account move from a 
functional programming way, i mean, if you want to make a very complex move 
several ways, you can build it one time (with a very little manual) and post 
this basic account process, this concept is a little confuse too, but we want 
to participate in this meeting and we will prepare this concepts... ;-)

BTW we need to arm our teams with very good people because not only have a a 
"easy to use" ERP tool ensure the success, the tool needs grow up not exploid 
work on several funtional issues. (Is only an opinion.)

-- I'm really worry about a bug and a post on lists around FISCAL POSITIONS, 
this need DOCUMENTATION not be removed or changed,  we need to invest on make 
documentation almost the same effort that we are doing on program and post 
bugs..... Concepts HOW, WHAT AND WHY something was done and is important, 
because we have seen solutions in modules very complex than overwritte very 
good features of the core and the main reason is "Leak of documentation that 
support the reasons"

-- I'm almost sure that openerp can host at least a pair of ears to this 
meeting, Fabien what do you think??.

my 2 cents,,, planify the meeting we want to participate, we can begin with IRC 
and this forum post to become in a very great resume, to planify a great work 
and sprint.

Chapeau enlightX

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Nhomar Hernandez
CTO at
http://openerp.netquatro.com




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