I'm using 1.1.15, and have found similar to previous versions that your app
for mica(2|2dot|z) must wire in HPLPowerManagementM and then call
HPLPowerManagement.enable() at start before anything useful happens.

Without doing this, the mote consumes somewhere around 2-3 mA while the
radio is disabled.  With HPLPowerManagement.enable()'d at startup, the mote
consumes approximately 0.102 mA when the radio is disabled and everything is
quiet.  

For reference, using a 0.106% duty cycling CC2420 radio on a micaz, the mote
will last about 16 days on 1500 mAh batteries with no power management.
When you add in that power management, you get about 266 days on the same
1500 mAh batteries.  

That's a big difference.  I think HPLPowerManagement should be enabled by
default when compiling for the mica2/z's

-david




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Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 12:20 PM
To: Harri Siirtola
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Subject: Re: [Tinyos-help] Mica2, CPU Timed Sleep and Wakeup


wow...coulda fooled me about the automatic part...kewel.
Will have to try it sometime.
Which is the "current tree" however?
MS

Harri Siirtola wrote:
> 
> First, as far as I know, the Snooze component is deprecated. There are 
> many improvements in the newer TInyOS versions that make things much 
> more simple. For example, the CountSleepRadio app (previously in 
> "contrib/ucb", now in the "apps" dir IIRC) is good for just testing that 
> power saving works. It just sends an incremented integer over the air 
> and goes to sleep. When a timer expires, the mote wakes up and sends the 
> next one. There's another example, "apps/examples/TestSleep" which 
> toggles a led between sleeping periods.
> 
> Second, in the current tree, power saving is transparent to the user. 
> When there are no interrupts (nor tasks, IIRC) pending, and only Timer 0 
> running, power saving kicks in. You can test it with the latest 
> measuring apps, just study the "make/avr/route.extra" to see which 
> commad line switches you must use to enable power saving. The 
> "PowerManagement.AdjustPower()" call is deeper down the radio stack and 
> is automatic once you compile the app correctly.
> 
> Regards,
> 
>         Harri
> 
> At 01:18 PM 4/26/2006 -0600, Michael Schippling wrote:
>> Sorry, I'm at a loss. I thought that one of the features of the motes
>> was the ability to sleep between samples to save power, but I never
>> paid attention to how/where/why this might work. I actually have it
>> on my list of things to do for a project that I never work on anymore...
>>
>> Assuming as usual that no one who actually knows how to do this will
>> answer your question...Perhaps there is something in the atmega spec
>> book about it?
>>
>> MS
>>
>> Gregory A. Moore wrote:
>>> Michael,
>>> Thank you for your response, but:
>>> SnoozeC only works for Mica motes, not Mica2.  They have a slightly 
>>> different processor so I am sure there are some dependency issues 
>>> that don't quite fit.
>>> I have also looked at the OnOffApp which is supposed to essentially 
>>> be the Snooze for the mica2, but it relies on a radio packet to start 
>>> the mote again.
>>> If you have any other suggestions I am greatly appreciative.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Greg
>>>
>>>> There is a module tos\platform\mica\SnoozeC.nc that purports to
>>>> do the shutdown and timer wakeup. And a TestSnooze demo app.
>>>> I haven't tried them, YMMV...
>>>> MS
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Gregory A. Moore wrote:
>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>
>>>>> I have perused the archives about this pesky timed mica2 sleep
>>>>> problem and have not found
>>>>> any code snippets or anything of huge benifit.
>>>>>
>>>>> So I repeat the question:
>>>>> I am working with Mica2.
>>>>> I would like to put the mote's CPU to sleep for a set period of  
>>>>> time and then have it
>>>>> awoken by some timer, not an incomming radio packet.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have done the power measurements with the use of
>>>>> HPPowerManagementM and I have not
>>>>> gotten any successful current readings that show me that the 
>>>>> module  is doing anything in
>>>>> the way of sleeping.
>>>>>
>>>>> The code from Berkely's study for P-TOSSIM shows us how to set the
>>>>> mote's CPU to sleep,
>>>>> but it does not show us how to wake it up with a timer.
>>>>>
>>>>> I write nesC well, but I am not an experienced embedded programmer
>>>>> so I am not quite sure
>>>>> how to program the awake tasks from the schematics.
>>>>>
>>>>> I hope there is someone out there who can help me with my woes.
>>>>>
>>>>> The code snippet I am using to put the mote to sleep is at the end
>>>>> of this email.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you in advance,
>>>>>
>>>>> Greg
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Successful code. thanks to Berkely folks, to put the mote to sleep:
>>>>>
>>>>> task void gotoSleep() {
>>>>>  cli();
>>>>>  //fires the interupt pin to signal data recording
>>>>>  //This is PIN5 on the connector, use probe to read signal
>>>>>  TOSH_SET_INT1_PIN();
>>>>>  TOSH_CLR_INT1_PIN();
>>>>>
>>>>>  // set the PA_POW to 00h to ensure lowest possible leakage current
>>>>>  call CC1000Control.SetRFPower(0x00);
>>>>>
>>>>>  // power down the radio
>>>>>  call CC1000StdControl.stop();
>>>>>  //call CC1000RadioIntM.StdControl.stop();
>>>>>  //call HPLPowerManagement.adjustPower()
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  ///Code taken from Snooze.nc,  this is current code used to
>>>>>  //put the Mica2 into different low power states
>>>>>  // save port state
>>>>>  port[0] = inp(PORTA); nops(8);
>>>>>  port[1] = inp(PORTB); nops(8);
>>>>>  port[2] = inp(PORTC); nops(8);
>>>>>  port[3] = inp(PORTD); nops(8);
>>>>>  port[4] = inp(PORTE); nops(8);
>>>>>  port[5] = inp(DDRA);  nops(8);
>>>>>  port[6] = inp(DDRB);  nops(8);
>>>>>  port[7] = inp(DDRD);  nops(8);
>>>>>  port[8] = inp(DDRE);  nops(8);
>>>>>  port[9] = inp(TCCR0); nops(8);
>>>>>  // Disable TC0 interrupt and set timer/counter0
>>>>>  //to be asynchronous from the CPU
>>>>>  // clock with a second external clock (32,768kHz) driving it.
>>>>>  //Prescale to 32 Hz.
>>>>>  cbi(TIMSK, OCIE0);  nops(8);
>>>>>
>>>>>  // set minimum power state
>>>>>  // NOTE: this enables pull-ups;
>>>>>  //       -may be sensor board dependant
>>>>>  //       - (ex: Port C should be lo during sleep, not hi?)
>>>>>
>>>>>  outp(0x00, DDRA);        // input
>>>>>  outp(0x01, DDRB);        // input
>>>>>
>>>>>  // changed 00 to ff because the impedance was high in the sleep
>>>>>  // state, drawing 8mA for 5 sec before sleeping. Now it immediately
>>>>>  // snoozes.
>>>>>  outp(0xff, DDRC);        // input
>>>>>  outp(0x00, DDRD);        // input
>>>>>  outp(0x00, DDRE);        // input
>>>>>
>>>>>  outp(0xff, PORTA);        // enable pull-ups
>>>>>  outp(0xfe, PORTB);  // enable pull-ups except for PB0
>>>>>
>>>>>  // changed the value of PORTC from ff to 0 because ff
>>>>>  // sounds the alarm when the mote goes to sleep.
>>>>>  outp(0x00, PORTC);        // enable pull-ups
>>>>>  outp(0xff, PORTD);        // enable pull-ups
>>>>>
>>>>>  cbi(ADCSRA, ADEN);     //  disable adc
>>>>>  sbi(ACSR,ACD);         //  disable analog comparator
>>>>>
>>>>>  //goes into sleep modes
>>>>>  if (sm2 == 1){
>>>>>        sbi(MCUCR, SM2); nops(8);
>>>>>  }
>>>>>  if (sm1 == 1){
>>>>>        sbi(MCUCR, SM1); nops(8);
>>>>>  }
>>>>>  if (sm0 == 1){
>>>>>        sbi(MCUCR, SM0); nops(8);
>>>>>  }
>>>>>
>>>>>  //enable sleep, clocks stop
>>>>>  sbi(MCUCR, SE);  nops(8);
>>>>>
>>>>>  //enable interupts (after wakingup - if you do)
>>>>>  sei(); nops(8);
>>>>>  //fires the red LED, and the pin
>>>>>  TOSH_SET_INT1_PIN();
>>>>>  call Leds.redOn();
>>>>> }
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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