On Jun 8, 2008, at 12:32 PM, salvatore galati wrote:

> hi all.
> I'm a student of Information Engeenering at University of Pisa.
> I'm working on a thesis on data transfer protocol in WSN.
> I'm using TmoteSky motes an TinyOs 2.x on cygwin.
> My problem is that i can't be able to exstimate the average  
> transmission time of a packet of 40bytes payload.
>
> When I run Tossim simulations ( with "make micaz sim" ) i found that  
> the average transmission time is about 6,8 milliseconds ( time  
> between AMSend.send() and AMSend.sendDone() )
> but when I install my application on motes (with "make telosb  
> install" ) i found that the average transmission time is about 10  
> milliseconds
> ( telosb mote send packets back-to-back and is the only mote that  
> send packets ----> NO possible collisions )
>
> It is possible that this time difference is caused by backoff times  
> or other delays?
> Both Micaz and Telosb platforms uses CC2420 Radio stack, so i think  
> that backoff time should be the same.
> In my python script i don't change the default values of backoff  
> times:
>
> from TOSSIM import *
> t = Tossim(n.variables.variables())
>
> mac = t.mac()
>
> mac.setInitHigh(640)   ( should be initial backoff maximum value )
> mac.setInitLow(20)     (  should be initial backoff minimum value )
> mac.setHigh(160)       ( should be congestion backoff maximum value )
> mac.setLow(20)          ( should be congestion backoff minimum value )
>
> Otherwise from  'opt\tinyos-2.x\tos\chips\cc2420\CC2420.h' and 'opt 
> \tinyos-2.x\tos\chips\cc2420\csma\CC2420CsmaP.nc' i think that
> initial backoff is random and bounded between 10-320 ticks ( 0,3 ---- 
> >9,8 milliseconds )
> congestion backoff is random and bounded between 10-80 ticks  
> ( 0,3----> 2,4 milliseconds )
>
> Tossim values are double in regard to cc2420 values founded in 'opt 
> \tinyos-2.x\tos\chips\cc2420' directory.
>
> I don't understand why in telosb mote ( 250kbit/sec bit-rate) there  
> is this average transmission time of 10 milliseconds:
>
> theorically a 40 bytes payload packet should be sent in:
>
> about 2 msec ------------>to send 40bytes payload + 18 bytes  
> ( preamble + header + CRC ) at 250kbit/sec----->    (58*8)/ 250 000
> +
> about 5 msec (   average initial backoff   ( max backoff time - min  
> backoff time )/2 )
> =
> about 7 milliseconds   ( this value is similar to tossim average  
> transmission time)
>
>
> Please anyone can explain to me why there is this difference between  
> tossim simulation and test on motes?
> or anyone can send to me a datasheet , document, pubblication in  
> which  I can found an explanation of  backoff time values in cc2420  
> radio stack on telosb motes?
> It is very important to me.

It's possible your motes are sensing other 2.4 GHz traffic (e.g.,  
802.11) and backing off in response to it. There's also the ACK  
listening time.

Phil
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