Abhishek:

 

There is just too much jitter in the delays in the pc->mote
communication, especially if you use java. Most of this jitter you just
can't control (JVM, OS, USB, etc.)

 

Have you considered moving the timing-sensitive code to the mote?

 

Janos

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Abhishek Anand
Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 11:22 AM
To: Andrey Gursky; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Tinyos-help] Mote-PC serial speed increasing

 

Hi,

 

I'm facing a similar problem!

My protocol requires a strict time control on when the the packets are
actually transmitted from the base station.

I have programmed by base-station-mote with the BaseStation app in
/$TOSROOT/apps/ folder. 

On the PC, my java program uses a the MoteIF class to send the packets

But unfortunately, it takes randomly a value b/w 8 to 25ms for the
packets to be ultimately broadcasted thru radio.

I mean the call to

     MoteIF.send(MoteIF.TOS_BCAST_ADDR, smsg);
in java takes anything b/w 8-25ms to return.

 

This is causing a lot of problem for me because my application requires
fine timing control

I'm okay with a delay of 20ms but is there any way to remove the
randomness of the time taken?

In other words, is it possible to do something so that there is a FIXED
gap of few ms b/w call to MoteIF.send

and the the commencement of the radio transmission of the packet at the
Base-station mote?

 

Regards,

Abhishek Anand

IIT Guwahati

On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 9:00 PM, Andrey Gursky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

Hi!

Thanks Janos for your advices!

I've changed the serial speed to 230400 (because of serial speed
declarations in GNU/Linux). It works :)
After simple test with printf() there is about 1 Kbyte/s :(
Than I've changed printf() test application. I supply printf() a string
with about 250 characters, then flush(). I could read about 8.5 Kbyte/s.
It's really more than standard for IRIS 57600 Kbit/s, but it is still
less than standard for other platforms. I've used PrintfClient to get
the data.

What do you think, is there a bottleneck easy to reprogram? I haven't
tested yet how much traffic I can transmit throw ZigBee. If this will
not more than 8.5 Kbyte/s then there is no sense to work around serial
communication.

Best regards,
Andrey



> Andrey:
>
> I think the code change you're proposing should work.
>
> >So atm128 doesn't have speed enough to guarantee 256 KBit/s
> >data connection pc<->mote? If one want this, one should
> >implement a different platform with another microcontroller?
>
> There's a good chance that it works. Just give it a try. BTW, I bet
you'll never
>  be getting 250kbps worth of zigbee payload in through the radio...
>
> >By the way, MIB520 has also a microcontroller on board.
> >Is USART of Mote directly connected to FTDI chip or
> >throw this microcontroller?
>
> It's hooked up directly to the FTDI chip.
>
> >It seems to be not so easy even at the standard serial speed :(
> Obviously, 57600bps might not be sufficient to push through all the
incoming
>  radio traffic...
>
> Janos
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  On Behalf Of Andrey Gursky
> Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 6:00 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Tinyos-help] Mote-PC serial speed increasing
>
> Thanks Janos!
>
> > On the iris, the ubrr0 register is set, at initialization time, to a
calibrated
> >  value for 57600bps. You can change the baud rate by writing this
register.
> >
>
> I've found in $TOSROOT/tos/chips/atm128 this code:
>
>   command error_t Init.init() {
>     if (PLATFORM_BAUDRATE == 19200UL)
>       m_byte_time = 200; // 1 TMicor ~= 2.12 us, one byte = 417us ~=
200
>     else if (PLATFORM_BAUDRATE == 57600UL)
>       m_byte_time = 68;  // 1 TMicor ~= 2.12 us, one byte = 138us ~=
65
>     return SUCCESS;
>   }
>
> I could add the line like this (or I should seek on to find ubrr0?)
> ..
>     else if (PLATFORM_BAUDRATE == 256000UL)
>       m_byte_time = ----->15<-----;  // 1 TMicor ~= 2.12 us, one byte
>  = ----->31us<----- ~= ----->15<-----
> ..
>
> >
> > This should work with a MIB520, but it is problematic with a MIB510.
Should
> >  you have the former programming board, the bottleneck will probably
be the
> >  interrupt load on the mote in the pc->mote direction. Note that the
serial
> >  stack doesn't buffer outgoing packets (mote->pc), so the app must
assume
> >  a lossy mote->pc link.
> >
>
> I have MIB520 (with usb) :)
> So atm128 doesn't have speed enough to guarantee 256 KBit/s data
connection
>  pc<->mote? If one want this, one should implement a different
platform
>  with another microcontroller?
>
> By the way, MIB520 has also a microcontroller on board. Is USART of
Mote directly
>  connected to FTDI chip or throw this microcontroller?
>
> There is one post seems to achieve similar goal: the highest speed :)
>
https://www.millennium.berkeley.edu/pipermail/tinyos-help/2008-June/0342
18.html
>
> It seems to be not so easy even at the standard serial speed :(
>
> Could someone point me to reference where I can read about what the
atm128x
>  has yet free to use as quick and reliable communication with PC (SPI,
I2C)?
>  Or the best idea were to use other small design to exchange messages
between
>  PC and ZigBee motes?
>
>
>
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >  On Behalf Of Andrey Gursky
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 6:16 AM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: [Tinyos-help] Mote-PC serial speed increasing
> >
> > Hi tinyOS-community!
> >
> > It seems possible (according datasheet) to use USART of ATmega128x
in >57600
> >  speed mode. Thus ZigBee functions of 250 Kbit/s it would be nice to
have this
> >  speed also between basestation and PC.
> > Does somebody know exactly, whether it would be as of some other
reasons not
> >  possible? Or have I to alter configuration in .../chip/atm1281 to
get this

> >  working?
> >
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Andrey
> >
> > P.S. Particularly I'm interesting in iris-motes.
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