Mohammad,

Yes, I believe the problem is with the actual connector that is MMCX adapter soldered to the board, i've had problems with them coming completely off the board and taking the PCB lines with them. I would first try re-soldering that piece first. If this doesn't work, then an alternative solution would be to use the through-hole connectors for the antenna. It should be located near the MMCX connector.

Using the through-hole connectors may be a little bit tricky since the antennas have an MMCX connector attached to the end. You may want to try making a very simple dipole(you won't get as good of a performance as the actual antenna because of impedance mis-matching) using a wire of the appropriate length, or you can use one of the female MMCX connectors to interface with the through-hole connector and the existing antenna.

Let me know what happens,
-Paul

On 12/22/2009 10:23 PM, Mohammad S. Hashemian wrote:
Thanks Paul, you're right, most likely the problem is with the antenna. But the point is that as you know for Micaz, the antenna is a 2.4 ghz pcb antenna! how can I re-solder it? by now I've cut the antenna of one of the motes totally and re-soldered it, but it didn't work and also I resolder another mote (without cutting the antenna first, just by adding more solder to it board), but it didn't work either! any suggestions how can I do it?

And also do you think if the problem is with the connection between MMCX female part and board or the female part itself is damaged? (the antenna should be fine, I tested it by changing a new mote's antenna with a damaged one, and it still was working fine)!

thanks again for your help,
Mohammad

2009/12/22 Paul Johnson <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>

    Mohammad,

    One thing you may want to check out is the antenna connection to
    the micaz board.  The board-mounted connector can be pretty
    fragile and can be easily broken off if the antenna catches on
    anything, or you attempt to remove the antenna by pulling at an
    angle.  What I would do is try to re-solder the antenna one one of
    the boards that are malfunctioning and see what happens.

    10cm is about the range I've seen micaz/mica2 nodes work w/out an
    antenna connected at all, so the antenna is likely the cause of
    this problem.

    Hopefully re-soldering the connections fixes this and you don't
    have to buy new boards,
    -Paul


    On 12/22/2009 4:53 PM, Mohammad S. Hashemian wrote:
    Hi All

    We have run a project using micaz modules. In this project there
    are 8 nodes which are fixed in a certain locations and 40 nodes
    which are carried by different people (some of these motes are in
    XBow boxes and some other are just in small pouches). There are 3
    motes which are used as base stations through the environment.

    The problem we have now is that the transmitter of the mobile
    motes gets damaged after a while. For example we pick a new mote
    out of the pack, program it, and give it to one of the people,
    after a while (sometimes even after 3 days!!!) the transmitter
    (either sender or receiver) stops working.

    I realize the transmitter of a mote has stopped working when I
    don't receive any signal from it for a couple of days. In this
    case I test the mote with CountSend and CountReceive (shipped
    with XBow MoteWorks) against another new mote. Usually the result
    is that either the sender part or receiver part of the mote has
    become so weak that the packet can be transferred only if the
    motes are less than 10 cm away!!! further than that the packet
    either can not be sent or be received. I've called the company
    regarding this issue and they told me if the mote doesn't work
    with CountSend and CountReceive, you should send them back here
    for diagnosis and because by now they are out of warranty, it
    costs 100$ per each for diagnosis (The motes have been bought
    more than a year ago, but they haven't been used at all).

    On possibility was that the motes that we got have been produced
    using a bad batch in the manufacture for transmitter, and that's
    why they keep dying in work. But it's not very likely because the
    problem is just exist with the mobile ones, not with the base
    stations or with the fixed motes. Also the currently used motes
    have been purchased in two separate orders, and probably two
    separate manufacturing series.

    The other possibility is that they die because of the static
    electricity (people are supposed to change the mote's battery
    every couple of days). Can it be a reason? But this even happens
    for the mobile motes with XBow boxes which they look safe for
    this. and if it's the reason, why just the transmitter gets
    damaged and no other part in the mote?

    By now we have lost more than 30 micaz motes this way and if it
    wants to continue we will much more. Does anyone has any idea
    what can be the reason and how we can stop it? Any idea is highly
    appreciated.

    Thanks,


-- Mohammad S. Hashemian
    Research Scholar/DISCUS Lab
    Department of Computer Science
    254.2 Thorvaldson Building
    University of Saskatchewan
    (306)966-1947


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