Pedro:

Why don't you port the rf2xx stack (tos/chips/rf2xx) to TOSSIM? The code is
organized such that only the lowermost layer is transceiver-specific. The
transceiver-specific driver layer is responsible for powering on and off the
radio, sending packets, downloading received packets and
timestamping/synchronization. Everything else, including LPL, is implemented
in a transceiver-independent manner in upper layers.

Janos

On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 8:10 PM, Pedro Nunes <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hello, Janos.
>
> Thank you a lot for your reply - it was very enlightening.
> Now, I am trying to figure it out how to port that behavior to TOSSIM
> (since it does not simulate Low Power Listening).
>
> I was trying to port the LPL used by CC2420 but it has a lot of
> dependencies and therefore porting it would be a pain in the backside, I
> guess.
>
> Maybe creating a new and simplified LPL from the scratch would be the best
> thing to do?
>
> Any idea is more than welcomed! :)
>
> Kind regards,
> Pedro Nunes
>
>
> On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 7:49 PM, Janos Sallai 
> <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> Pedro:
>>
>> Take a look at the radio control states on page 43 of the cc2420
>> datasheet. Apart from the IDLE state, there are two more low power modes,
>> namely "power down" and "voltage regulator off". The difference between IDLE
>> and "power down" is that the on-chip 16Mhz oscillator is turned off in the
>> latter state. Not surprisingly, the transceiver draws about 1mA less in
>> power down than in IDLE. On the other hand, it takes about 680us more to
>> start a transmission or to enter receive mode from power down than from
>> IDLE.
>>
>> To answer your question: the tinyos-2.x radio stack actually goes _below_
>> the IDLE state in terms of power consumption in LPL mode. In fact, as I
>> recall, not only the oscillator, but also the voltage regulator is turned
>> off when the transceiver "sleeps".
>>
>> Janos
>>
>> On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 1:01 PM, Pedro Nunes <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all.
>>>
>>> I dug a little bit on mail archives and I found an old thread where it is
>>> said that the IDLE state is not implemented on CC2420 radio stack (please
>>> refer to
>>> http://mail.millennium.berkeley.edu/pipermail/tinyos-help/2005-December/013742.html
>>>  to
>>> see the whole thread).
>>>
>>> Don't you think it is very strange that a mote only has two states?
>>> (Sending or Receiving?)
>>> Why don't use IDLE state where battery could be saved?
>>> This way, whenever a mode isn't in TX mode (transmitting), then it is in
>>> RX mode (receiving). Accordingly to MICAz datasheet, RX state has a cost of
>>> 19.7 mA which is higher than any TX state can be.
>>> This kind of behavior will lead us to something like: one application
>>> that sends shorter messages (and therefore is on TX mode for shorter periods
>>> of time) will spend more energy than an application that sends bigger
>>> messages (and therefore will be on TX mode for longer periods). Since the
>>> former application will be on RX mode most of the time it will spend more
>>> energy than the latter (since receiving a message is heavier than sending
>>> one cf. MICAz datasheet:
>>> http://www.xbow.com/Products/Product_pdf_files/Wireless_pdf/MICAz_Datasheet.pdf
>>> ).
>>>
>>> Please, can anyone shed some light here?
>>>
>>> Kind regards,
>>> Pedro Nunes
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 5:10 PM, Pedro Nunes <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello all.
>>>>
>>>> What are the different states of CC2420 radio stack in TinyOS?
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Pedro Nunes
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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