On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 10:24, Miklos Maroti <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Giancarlo,
>
> The RF230HWACk driver does not use the hardware CSMA engine of the
> chip, only hardware ACKs. The driver automatically retries to send
> messages. You might want to enable acknowledgements to guarantee
> delivery.
>
> Miklos

Dear Miklos,

Thank you for the reply, but I think that we need clarify a bit the environment.

SCENARIO:  Broadcast communication among nodes
GOAL: Reduce packet loss by using the transmission mode shown on
Figure 7-8 at page 36 of the AT86RF230 Datasheet

PRECONDITION:
As far as I know, the broadcast communication disable the transmission
of ACK on the AT86RF230 radio, do you agree?
The activation of the RF230DriverHwAck enable the Flow Diagram
depicted on Figure 7-8 at page 36 of the AT86RF230 Datasheet for the
AT86RF230 radio, doesn't it?
The default configuration provided by TinyOS 2.1.1 for AT86RF230 radio
( when the RF230DriverHwAck )  avoid  the transmission of packets when
the first Clear Channel Assessment (CCA) fails (see Figure 7-8 on page
36 of the AT86RF230 Datasheet ), is this correct? We argued such
behaviour by looking at the initRadio function ( see
RF230DriverHwAckP.nc line 273 ).
Moreover, by looking at initRatio and the AT86RF230 datasheet we
argued that the AT86RF230 radio is configured to a fixed back-off
value which is ZERO ( see RF230DriverHwAckP.nc line 274 ), are we
right?

IMPLEMENTATION:
Considering that all the PRECONDITION statement as correct we decided
to modify the initRadio funcion of RF230DriverHwAckP.nc source, with
the changes reported in Giancarlo's mail. In particular, we changed
the initialization values for the registries XAH_CTRL, CSMA_SEED_0,
and CSMA_SEED_1 to the default values provided by the datasheet. In
our understanding, the Giancarlo's initialization values should enable
up to FOUR transmission attempts when CCA fails and it should enable a
real random generation of the back-off value to wait before performing
again the CCA.

So our questions are:
 - Is any of our precondition wrong?
 - is our implementation correct with respect to the AT86RF230 datasheet?
 - does any piece of code in TinyOS override the CCA behaviour?

Best regards,
Stefano "Kismet" Lenzi

>
> On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 6:37 PM, Giancarlo <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I'm a newbie TinyOs programmer and i'm searching advice/help to use
>> CSMA/CA under IRIS.
>>
>> I need a low packet loss to track continuos data from sensors.
>> I've seen on AT86RF230 chip manual that i need to use Extended
>> Operating Mode , that i need to initialize registers 0x2C (XAH_CTRL)
>> ,0x2D (CSMA_SEED_0) ,0x2E (CSMA_SEED_1).
>> On TinyOs source code (2.1.1) i made the (hoped) according modifications :
>>
>> DEFINEd in RF230DriverLayer.h Extended Operating Mode by RF230_HARDWARE_ACK
>>
>> In RF230DriverHwAckP.nc I wrote in the three registers values
>> according with the chip manual , by the way i found   XAH_CTRL and
>> CSMA_SEED_0 initialized to 0 and no trace of initialition of
>> CSMA_SEED_1
>>
>> in this way  (btw chip reset value)
>>
>>               uint8_t CSMA_retry = 56;
>>               uint8_t CSMA_seed_init = 194;
>>               uint8_t CSMA_seed_0init = 234
>>               .
>>               .
>>               .
>>               writeRegister(RF230_XAH_CTRL, CSMA_retry);
>>               writeRegister(RF230_CSMA_SEED_0, CSMA_seed_0init);
>>               writeRegister(RF230_CSMA_SEED_1, CSMA_seed_init);
>>
>> Recompiled, flashed  , no improvements , packet loss levels are the
>> same than before.
>>
>> Am i doing well or i just making some errors?
>>
>> thanks for any advice
>>
>> Giancarlo
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