hi,

 you mentioned dtosh "data length is set in the TestDhvP.nc/TestDipP.nc when
you declare the DisseminationValue/DisseminationUpdate interfaces." can you
exactly tell where?

thank you very much

silva

On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 10:01 AM, <[email protected]> wrote:

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> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 09:59:12 -0700
> Subject: Re: Fwd: [Tinyos-help] Dissemination Protocols Comparison
> Hi Paul,
>
> Quoting Omprakash Gnawali <[email protected]>:
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>> From: Paul Gildea <[email protected]>
>> Date: Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 12:22 PM
>> Subject: [Tinyos-help] Dissemination Protocols Comparison
>> To: [email protected]
>>
>>
>> Hello, I am new to tinyos, I am following this tutorial on
>> dissemination protocols, DIP/DRIP/DHV
>> http://docs.tinyos.net/index.php/Dissemination
>> I have created the test application and wish to study the power use of
>> the three of the protocols using powertossim z and graph the power
>> used by each when values are tuned etc.
>> DIP/DHV have three tunable parameters.
>>
>> The first is the Trickle values.
>>
>> #define DIP_TAU_LOW (1024L)
>> #define DIP_TAU_HIGH (65535L)
>>
>> The second is data size.
>>
>> typedef nx_struct dip_data {
>>  nx_uint8_t data[16];
>> } dip_data_t;
>>
>>  The third is advertisement size
>>
>> #define DIP_SUMMARY_VALUES_PER_PACKET 2
>> #define DIP_VECTOR_VALUES_PER_PACKET 2
>>
>> You can compute the proper size with the following formulas:
>>
>> DIP_SUMMARY_VALUES_PER_PACKET = (DTOSH_DATA_LENGTH - 5) / 3
>> DIP_VECTOR_VALUES_PER_PACKET = (DTOSH_DATA_LENGTH - 1) / 2
>>
>>
> You might want to consider the suppression constant INFO_THRESHOLD defined
> in Dhv.h. It defines when a node suppresses its own transmission.
>
>  Does DRIP have similar, so I can compare it? You seem to be able to
>> change the data size but I have not found where yet.
>>
>
> I believe the current implementation of DRIP lets nodes transmit one
> (key,value) at a time randomly.
>
>  I am unsure if this test application is suitable as I have tried with
>> both DIP and DHV to measure the power used when changing the data size
>> for each. Perhaps I am going about it wrong. For each I changed
>> nx_uint8_t data[x] from 0-17 and they all yielded very similar energy
>> use, which I will attach. I thought only 1-16 were valid byte sizes so
>> am  confused as to why 0 and 17 still yield similar values? even
>> something like 1000 does, but for 1000000 a fault occurs,
>> 'segmentation fault'. I am wondering why all these results are so
>> similar? Perhaps more intensive use of leds etc in the program would
>> show diverse ranges? Should editing these byte sizes in Dip.h work
>> like that?
>>
>
> Leds use a lot of energy compared to a single packet transmission. Did you
> try to compare Dhv/Dip without leds (You can turn off leds in
> TestDipP.nc/TestDhvP.nc). Even so, I think the packet length plays a little
> role in energy consumption (time to transmit one byte once the radio is
> already on is only a few micro seconds). The actual saving is the number of
> transmisions (how many packets are being sent/how many times the radio is
> turned on and off) and the node duty cycles.
>
> The protocols may not check the value for data size (eg. 1000), I will look
> into that and get back to you asap.
>
>  For the other two tunign parameters I am unsure as to what values
>> would be useful for my tests. the trickle counter is supposed to be in
>> millisecond gradients so is the lower tau 1024 milliseconds and the
>> higher tau 65535 milliseconds? The third tuning parameter is
>> advertisement size, I am unsure of how to change this based on the
>> formulae above, where is dtosh data length etc coming froma nd would
>> changing these values be useful for what I hope to achieve, comparing
>> the power usage in these three protocols? Thanks
>>
>
> dtosh data length is set in the TestDhvP.nc/TestDipP.nc when you declare
> the DisseminationValue/DisseminationUpdate interfaces.
>
>
>> --
>> Paul
>>
>>
> Hope that helps,
>
> Thanh
>
>
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