Dear Alex,

The max. output power of CC2420 is 0dBm.

Therefore the max. power which can be received at the receiver mote is 0dBm
( very difficult in practice).
You are getting -3dBm, which I believe is right, considering the losses
(eventhough, you have kept them very close).

Thanks
Jobish John


On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 1:25 AM, Alex Cp <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hello Alex.
>
> Thanks for your reply.
>
> From the omnidirectional gain antenna of 5 dBi in each case mote TelosB
> (Rssi Base and Sending Mote )
>
> Probably, the Line loss is very high? but it seems to be little credible,
> because in each case it will be -6.5 dB (impossible no?)
>
> PTx - Ltx+ Gtx+Grx-Lrx=
> 0dBm - 6.5dB + 5 dBi + 5dBi - 6.5dB = -3dBm ????
>
>
> Alex CP.
> CUC
>
> On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 2:31 PM, Alexander <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hello Alex,
>> Where you got GainTx and GainRx from?
>>
>> Regards, Alex.
>>
>> 12 мая 2015 г., в 22:07, Alex Cp <[email protected]> написал(а):
>>
>> Dear Jobish John.
>>
>> You know the reason about why the measure of the Rssi in the Base is
>> -3dBm, because after make a link budget calculus it should be: 10 dBm when
>> the two antennas are touching?
>>
>>
>> Ptx+GainTx+GainRx=
>> 0dBm+5dBi+5dBi=
>> 10dBm
>>
>> Nevertheless the currently value obtained is -3dBm (The maximum value
>> obtained in terms of wireless power)
>>
>> Thanks in advance for your kind answer.
>>
>>
>> Alex CP
>> CUC.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, May 9, 2015 at 2:00 PM, <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
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>>> Date: Sat, 9 May 2015 12:45:00 -0500
>>> From: Alex Cp <[email protected]>
>>> Subject: Re: [Tinyos-help] Rssi convert to dBm in TelosB
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>>> Cc: ketan patel <[email protected]>
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>>> Dear Jobish Jhon and Alexander.
>>>
>>> Thanks a lot for all advices. Currently are worked fine, and the best is
>>> the fact that I know the calculus is very trustworthy (accurate
>>> information
>>> Jobish Jhon).
>>>
>>> Finally the file RssiDemo.java is now:
>>>
>>> ...
>>>    int source = message.getSerialPacket().get_header_src();
>>>    double rssi = msg.get_rssi()-45;
>>>     System.out.println("Rssi Message received from node " + source +
>>>        ": Rssi = " +  rssi + " " + "dBm");
>>>   }
>>> ...
>>>
>>> And mantaining the two TelosB motes very, very close (touching its
>>> antennas) I've obtained:
>>>
>>> Rssi Message received from node 1: Rssi = -4.0 dBm
>>> Rssi Message received from node 1: Rssi = -3.0 dBm
>>> Rssi Message received from node 1: Rssi = -4.0 dBm
>>> Rssi Message received from node 1: Rssi = -3.0 dBm
>>> Rssi Message received from node 1: Rssi = -3.0 dBm
>>> Rssi Message received from node 1: Rssi = -3.0 dBm
>>> Rssi Message received from node 1: Rssi = -3.0 dBm
>>> Rssi Message received from node 1: Rssi = -3.0 dBm
>>> Rssi Message received from node 1: Rssi = -3.0 dBm
>>> Rssi Message received from node 1: Rssi = -3.0 dBm
>>> Rssi Message received from node 1: Rssi = -3.0 dBm
>>> Rssi Message received from node 1: Rssi = -3.0 dBm
>>> Rssi Message received from node 1: Rssi = -3.0 dBm
>>> Rssi Message received from node 1: Rssi = -3.0 dBm
>>>
>>> Thanks a lot again!!
>>>
>>> Alex CP
>>> CUC
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, May 9, 2015 at 2:14 AM, JOBISH JOHN <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Hi Alex,
>>> >
>>> > The datasheet (Page No: 11) of CC2420 says ? The range for RSSI is
>>> > approximately from ?100 dBm to 0 dBm ?. Page No: 49 of CC2420 datasheet
>>> > talks about substracting the offset value, -45 to get the dBm
>>> equivalent.
>>> > Page No: 10 of datasheet talks about the Receiver Sensitivity (Typ: -95
>>> > dBm).
>>> >
>>> > Your previous readings shows approx. 0 dBm (when both the motes placed
>>> > very close)
>>> >
>>> > Try to increase the distance between the motes. When they get
>>> > disconnected, the Rssi Message received on your PC will be close to
>>> -50 (
>>> > so that -50 -45 = -95dBm) ( I am getting this value).
>>> >
>>> > Thus I believe subtracting -45 is enough.
>>> >
>>> > Thanks
>>> >
>>> > Jobish John
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Sat, May 9, 2015 at 10:37 AM, Alex Cp <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Hi all.
>>> >>
>>> >> Im trying to convert in dBm the values obtained from the app:
>>> >>
>>> >> <http://tinyos.stanford.edu/tinyos-wiki/index.php/Rssi_Demo>
>>> >>
>>> >> In my case appears the next values:
>>> >>
>>> >> Rssi Message received from node 1: Rssi = 40
>>> >> Rssi Message received from node 1: Rssi = 41
>>> >> Rssi Message received from node 1: Rssi = 40
>>> >> Rssi Message received from node 1: Rssi = 40
>>> >> Rssi Message received from node 1: Rssi = 41
>>> >>
>>> >> Because is very close both motes TelosB (Sending Mote and Rssi Base )
>>> >>
>>> >> In the TinyOS tutorial appears the next: "...that this app prints only
>>> >> the raw RSSI values ..."
>>> >>
>>> >> On the other hand I have the Data sheet of the RF Transceiver CC2420:
>>> >>
>>> >> <http://web.stanford.edu/class/cs244e/papers/cc2420.pdf>
>>> >>
>>> >> But is not clear to me How I can do the conversion from raw RSSI to
>>> dBm.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> I read, someone in the TinyOS mail-list, who wrote that is only
>>> necessary
>>> >> substract -45:
>>> >>
>>> >> <
>>> >>
>>> https://www.millennium.berkeley.edu/pipermail/tinyos-help/2014-March/058162.html
>>> >> >
>>> >>
>>> >> But I suppose is not a exact calculation.
>>> >>
>>> >> I'll be grateful if somebody can generously explain how is the correct
>>> >> way to convert raw RSSI values from a TelosB to a dBm.
>>> >>
>>> >> Thanks in advance.
>>> >>
>>> >> Alex.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2014 12:13:27 +0530
>>> >> From: ashok <[email protected]>
>>> >> Subject: [Tinyos-help] RSSI DEMO
>>> >> To: [email protected]
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>>> >>
>>> >> Dear All,
>>> >>
>>> >> I am getting RSSI value in tinyos like:
>>> >>
>>> >> Rssi Message received from node 1: Rssi = -14
>>> >> Rssi Message received from node 1: Rssi = -1
>>> >> Rssi Message received from node 1: Rssi = 2
>>> >> Rssi Message received from node 1: Rssi = -2
>>> >> Rssi Message received from node 1: Rssi = 2
>>> >> Rssi Message received from node 1: Rssi = 0
>>> >> Rssi Message received from node 1: Rssi = -2
>>> >> Rssi Message received from node 1: Rssi = 2
>>> >> Rssi Message received from node 1: Rssi = 2
>>> >>
>>> >> and I want to conform that is this value is in Dbm?
>>> >>
>>> >> if not than how can i convert it?
>>> >>
>>> >> regards,
>>> >>
>>> >> -ashok
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