Hi

On Thu, 4 Oct 2001, James Guinee wrote:
> Just as science cannot teach much about morality, religion cannot teach 
> much about science.  It doesn't mean they can't have some partnership, but 
> not much of one.  

The complication for those of us who teach and do science about
human beings is, do we really want to say that "science cannot
teach much about morality?"  Or that science cannot teach much
about such essences of human experience as consciousness?  Or
about out-of-body experiences?  And so on.  Now that science
addresses such questions more fully, I think that it will be
increasingly difficult to demarcate science and religion, not
that it is particularly easy even now.

The book Jim cited sounds very interesting and does, I think,
clearly demonstrate some of the potential negative consequences
for religion of trying to put itself into the scientific domain
(i.e., having theories about the world that can be determined
empirically to be valid or not, making testable predictions,
basing belief on the outcome of studies, ...).  Similarly,
efforts to perhaps promote religion because of its utilitarian
value (e.g., promoting happiness, longevity, ...) likewise run
risks of setting the grounds for dimishing of religion if some
more utilitarian model should emerge.  As with many domains,
people are probably not very good at anticipating the long-term
consequences of their actions.

Best wishes
Jim

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