I, too, am a lurker..(smile). I was told the term, "womb envy" was first used by Betty Friedan. I need to search through some grad and Ph.D. work to see if I can find the reference. If I find it, I'll post it.
Personally, I suffer from ""energy envy" as I envy the enormous energy children have compared to adults. It should be reversed. My best to the group, Diana . Diana Kyle, M. A. Psychology Dept. Fullerton College http://staffwww.fullcoll.edu/dkyle/ Campus Phone 714-992-7166 " Choose a job you love, and you'll never work a day in your life." --- Confucius "Whether you think you can or think you can't, you're always right." --Henry Ford ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeffrey Nagelbush" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Teaching in the Psychological Sciences" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 9:34 PM Subject: Re: Oedipus, Electra, Freud (and Jung) > The problem with these answers (not just yours) is that they do not answer > my question. Since the development of the superego in males is one result of > the resolution of the Oedipus complex, the identification with the father, > and since females do not have a similar experience, my question is not why > did Freud think females had a weaker superego but how do females develop any > superego at all? Did he describe any mechanism to explain why they are not > totally amoral? And if they hate their moms, how do they develop their > gender roles? > > Jeff Nagelbush > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Ferris State University > > > >From: Deb Briihl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: "Teaching in the Psychological Sciences" > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: "Teaching in the Psychological Sciences" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: Re: Oedipus, Electra, Freud (and Jung) > >Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 09:15:38 -0400 > > > >That's the point - women don't. Women were viewed as being morally > >inferior, so the question was, how did they get that way? Answer, they > >don't go through the Oedipus complex, so they have a weaker superego than > >men do. It's a bit more complex that that, but that is the basic answer. > > > > > > > >>I know this is true and teach this to my classes. I do have a question, > >>however. What is the Freudian mechanism for females developing their > >>superego and feminine identity since they have no counterpart to the > >>Oedipus conflict? > >> > >>Jeff Nagelbush > >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>Ferris State University > >> > >>_________________________________________________________________ > >>Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > >> > >> > >>--- > >>You are currently subscribed to tips as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >Deb > > > >Dr. Deborah S. Briihl > >Dept. of Psychology and Counseling > >Valdosta State University > >Valdosta, GA 31698 > >(229) 333-5994 > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >http://chiron.valdosta.edu/dbriihl/ > > > >Well I know these voices must be my soul... > >Rhyme and Reason - DMB > > > > > >--- > >You are currently subscribed to tips as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to tips as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
