Adding to this thread....

I am constantly questioning my own criteria in each class.  However, I stick
to whatever I have outlined in my syllabus each semester and then try to
evaluate how it worked.

Regarding missed classes and work, my latest version includes an excuse
policy that doesn't discriminate between medically excusable and other
absences.  I just include an attendance grade and show how each missed day
will reduced their attendance grade and then allow students to "work" their
way out of a lowered grade by submitting, relatively painless, 1 or 2 page
papers on a variety of topics in order to compensate for missed classes.
That way, they are encouraged to attend receive a tangible punishment for
missed days (I give them one "free" absence and one has to miss more than 2
classes to affect grades).  Religious holidays are free too, of course.

I do the same for assignments, I will accept late stuff but there is a
penalty for every missed day - I also have a 1/2 hour window during class
when all due work can be turned in - this discourages people using the
entire class meeting to do last minute typing and showing up 10 minutes
before end of class to turn in work.

On the issue of missed tests, I don't reschedule them, I let students take a
version of the missed test on the day of the final - which is tough (i.e., a
punisher) because they'll have to study for two tests at one time.  However,
it also does not reinforce the behavior of rescheduling tests a few days in
order to "buy" study time.

It is in the syllabus, but I try to verbally outline my idea of student
responsibility and consequences in the beginning and through the course.

How did it work?  This semester, I still had about 1/4 of my students try to
give me doctor's notes, mother's notes, personal stress stories, and even
arguments that they just didn't know what was written in the syllabus.  Most
of the time, however, they were able to understand that they had quite a bit
of control over their grades when it came to attendance and papers, and even
tests, really.

But I think that, after their initial frustration (which I validated) they
were mostly able to come back to me and acknowledge their own
responsibility.  I believe that when we have fair and clear consequences for
these students, it is a positive learning experience for them in that (maybe
through their own failure) they understand (maybe for the first time) that
in order to succeed they must stay cognizant of their responsibilities and
work on developing valuable survival skills that will enhance their
performance in college.

Anyway, although I have gotten quite frustrated this semester, I have always
tried to be friendly and, if you will, "Rogerian" in my demeanor.  Which is
hard while student argue about how "unfair" it is that we don't reward their
irresponsible behaviors. So far, since finals, I have received a number of
really touching emails from my students (not my "good" ones either),
thanking me for being such a "cool teacher."  Makes it all worth it! :)

Haydee Gelpi
Broward Community College
Florida

-----Original Message-----
From: Joann Jelly [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 2:13 PM
To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences
Subject: RE: dastardly deadlines, empty excuses and our reactions thereto


Erica, I am never comfortable in those situations.  I have tried "being
tough-sticking to my principles, wanting students to be "Responsible," and I
find it very difficult.  I have tried giving in and permitting makeups and
feel uncomfortable.  This semester in my area, grandmothers died and I swear
last semester it was uncles.  Counteracting  excuses  seems to me to work
best when I set up guidelines, i.e., No Makeups After Grades Have Been
Returned to the Class (next class period).  Of course some students still
can't/won't understand and will try to negotiate around any guideline.

Have you seen the FACCCTS cartoon with a young student protesting:

        LET ME GET THIS STRAIGHT.  IF I DON'T SHOW UP TO CLASS FOR
        THREE WEEKS AND DON'T DO ANY OF THE WORK, MY GRADE'S
        IN JEOPARDY?  HARSH.
I wonder how the IRS would react to the deer story.
Best wishes for a great holiday to all of you.

Joann Jelly
-----Original Message-----
From: Don Allen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 9:16 PM
To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences
Subject: Re: dastardly deadlines and empty excuses




Erica-

Before you decide to feel bad consider the following:

All of your students show up for the final exam except you're not
there. No one knows where you are & no one knows where the exams are. The
students are all sent home & no one knows if they will even get a final
grade. A week later you call each of the students. You explain that you
ran into a deer. Due to the trauma of the accident you just 'forgot'
about the exam. You have photos of the car & are willing to show
them.  You suggest that they should come back from their holidays and
write the exam. When they complain you ask, "Well, do you want to write
the exam or not?"

I suggest that you feel just as bad as those students would feel about
you.

All the best,

-Don.

On Wed, 12 Dec 2001
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> OK, a student contacted me a week after the final exam and emailed that
she
> had missed the exam and wanted to know how to arrange to make it up.  Huh?
I
> wrote back 'why did you miss the exam, and why did you wait so long to get
in
> touch?'  She replied that she had hit a deer with her car and did I want
to
> see photos?  And she hadn't had a way to get to school, and then forgot
about
> the exam.  This student had already missed two classes before the final.
She
> had my email address and my phone number.  The syllabus clearly states
that
> you must contact me before an exam is missed or else document an
emergency.
>
> I asked if she had sustained any injuries from the car accident and she
wrote
> back 'so are you going to let me take the exam or not?'
>
> This was not a poor student, she had been doing decent work in class and
> could have gotten a B but ended up with an F.  So why do I feel bad (I
know
> why I feel bad but is it just inevitable?)
> Erica
>
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